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I looking for one of these. The Sa80, the one that had the H and K redesign.
If any one know "if" it is posible to get one. Please let me know where. thanks
 
I posted on this a while ago. There are some in Canada I believe 25 or so came in. They are prohib. Unlikely ever to get any more in. Airsoft is your best bet if you must have
 
There are no HK redesigns in civilian hands.

If I recall, are the SA80's in Canada only prohib as converted auto? I thought the SA80 was not listed by name?
 
They're not prohibited per se, not by name anyway, they're 12(2) or 12(3) usually. It is possible to make one that is non-restricted though, I have an L98A1 cadet rifle which is non-restricted and it could legally be converted to semi-automatic using an L85A2 upper (which is essentially what they did with the new L98A2 cadet rifle).

But this is no minor undertaking. The number of cadet rifles in private hands is maybe a couple of dozen worldwide.

There were a few L85A1s sold in Switzerland with L98A1 lowers back in the mid-1980s, those would be non-restricted if you could find one.

It's getting hold of the parts that's tricky, I'm not sure where people are getting their parts from as the MoD has a policy of not selling firearms anymore, they destroy them. I assume they must be coming from Jamaica (the JDF used to use it, they seem to have gone to the M16A2 now) or from dealers who had dealer samples. I know a dealer in London had a fair few that he used as prop guns.
 
One of my many project plans has always been to make an SA80 lower type kit for an AR180B upper. Wouldn't be too hard if I could source some furniture. The SA80 is basically just an AR18 bullpup.
 
cybershooters said:
They're not prohibited per se, not by name anyway, they're 12(2) or 12(3) usually. It is possible to make one that is non-restricted though, I have an L98A1 cadet rifle which is non-restricted and it could legally be converted to semi-automatic using an L85A2 upper (which is essentially what they did with the new L98A2 cadet rifle).

But this is no minor undertaking. The number of cadet rifles in private hands is maybe a couple of dozen worldwide.

There were a few L85A1s sold in Switzerland with L98A1 lowers back in the mid-1980s, those would be non-restricted if you could find one.

It's getting hold of the parts that's tricky, I'm not sure where people are getting their parts from as the MoD has a policy of not selling firearms anymore, they destroy them. I assume they must be coming from Jamaica (the JDF used to use it, they seem to have gone to the M16A2 now) or from dealers who had dealer samples. I know a dealer in London had a fair few that he used as prop guns.
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Good luck finding one. Converted FA-SA80 show up fairly frequently, but factory-semiautos are rare as hen's teeth. Both demand quite a high price for what they are. Absolutely useless for anything else then collecting.
 
I won't mind the SA80A2 - I like the handling better than the TAVOR and AUG.

The fire control and charging handling locations are FUBAR though.
 
Can't see why you would want one if you could get it except as a collection thing. I've shot them and I can't really say anything good about them I'd much rather get an AUG if they were available or a Tavor.
 
If I could find a transferable one at a price I could afford I'd take one, old p.o.s, hand cranked cadet, whatever. It is historically significant, interesting and accurate.

Too bad I won't be able to.
 
greentips said:
I won't mind the SA80A2 - I like the handling better than the TAVOR and AUG.

The fire control and charging handling locations are FUBAR though.
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The original prototypes (the 4.85mm version) used a non STANAG mag, so it had a flapper style (AK/FN) mag catch and an FN/H&K style thumb activated safety rather than the cheap plastic cross bolt.

I always wondered what it would have been like if they had not modified the hell out of it and cheapened it when they made the final 5.56 version, the original prototypes look much better than the final production version.
 
paulz said:
I always wondered what it would have been like if they had not modified the hell out of it and cheapened it when they made the final 5.56 version, the original prototypes look much better than the final production version.
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I always wonder why they didn't kill the SA80 program and go to the FNC as it would have been a far easier shift from the L1A1.

Then again I think soldiers deserve better than the SA80 will ever be.
 
The orginal ones that came to Canada were a straight pull back rifle(no gas system). The importer then installed the gas system on them, which in turned pissed the people back in the UK off because he promised not to do it and was cut off from any more rifles.
 
Have you got some evidence of that? He would have needed the gas pistons and modifying the front sight post and drilling the barrel is no minor task. I've never heard or seen one.

What I heard is that they exported some to Canada and he promised not to export them back to the UK and either he or someone else did, which pissed off the MoD so Royal Ordnance stopped exporting them.

All the ones I've seen in Canada have been 12(3) converted autos. I have an L98A1 and it was in the FRT so I'm assuming someone else has got one too.
 
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