Sako Extractor in 700 Remington

What about other actions with sako style extractors and no safety rib, like the tikka. They appear to be ready to blow out the port, right in the face of a left hand shooter. Is this not the same as the remington mod?

I would say the danger is the same however by modifying a Remington I have intentionally removed an engineered safety feature of that action. For that reason I refuse to modify customers bolts. That said, I shoot one myself and I'm left handed.
 
The guy who died in the US was shooting left handed - a right hand 700 with the Sako style extractor alteration... Apparently through an eye into his brain...
 
I have always wondered what the counterbore clearance was like on that barrel.
Many say that it must have been grossly oversized to allow the extractor to get out.

It doesn't have to be grossly over sized at all. It's simply that the integrity of the "3 rings of steel" surrounding and sealing a catastrophic case failure no longer exist when you convert the Remington extractor to something else. You mill a slot in the bolt, plugging it with an extractor that will blow out... The strongest and safest 2 lug action ever made no longer exists with that conversion ...
 
It makes you wonder why every single 700 clone does away with those three rings? With some pretty intelligent gun guys engineering some of them.
 
Maybe its because catastrophic case failures are rare. If you've never seen one, you've never had occasion to appreciate premium design.
From the standpoint of protecting the shooter in the event of a failure, designs range from superb to scary.
Some of the custom actions are made by rather small companies. How many of these businesses test multiple actions to destruction?
 
Bruce Thom was on Ultimate Reloader a short time ago and the were putting some heavy stress on one of his receivers. I suspect most of these guys have a pretty good idea when their actions will fail.
 
If you load properly and don't do wild experiments the vast majority of actions are fine, but none of them even come close to a 700 in sealing off the gases. That feature and the extreme accuracy is what made the 700 great as far as 2 lug bolt actions go.
 
Bruce Thom was on Ultimate Reloader a short time ago and the were putting some heavy stress on one of his receivers. I suspect most of these guys have a pretty good idea when their actions will fail.

How many of the custom action companies have engineers on staff?

How many have tested multiple actions to destruction? How many have observed what happens to their actions in the event of a catastrophic case failure? Actually studied how extreme pressure gas is handled when containment is lost?

Heavy stresses on one receiver would be interesting, but hardly definitive.
 
How many of the custom action companies have engineers on staff?
How many have tested multiple actions to destruction? How many have observed what happens to their actions in the event of a catastrophic case failure? Actually studied how extreme pressure gas is handled when containment is lost?
Heavy stresses on one receiver would be interesting, but hardly definitive.

The company I work for employs dozens of mechanical engineers. Believe me, you don't want ANY of them designing a bolt action for you. Maybe a stress analysis after the fact, but certainly not designing it.
Jim Borden is the only manufacturer I can think of that is an engineer himself, but I'm fairly certain that anyone else with an insurance policy would have their designs checked out thoroughly.
 
How many of the custom action companies have engineers on staff?

How many have tested multiple actions to destruction? How many have observed what happens to their actions in the event of a catastrophic case failure? Actually studied how extreme pressure gas is handled when containment is lost?

Heavy stresses on one receiver would be interesting, but hardly definitive.
Did you watch it?
 
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