That should be Swar. I have ordered a 7mm mag remington sonero and I want to match it up with a high grade scope. If Swar or Zeiss were chosen what model? I will be using it for longer range hunting of elk etc with some range time with some gopher elimination. I'm looking to make the long shots as well as some shorter ones. Im a neophyte to scope measurements. If the first number is small does that make it difficult to make shots within 50 yards eg cant find target.
Sar or Zeis with 7 mm mag sonero
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the first number or range of numbers is the power.
for example 2-7x40mm. that means you can turn a ring on the scope and adjust it from 2x magnification up to 7x magnification. 6.5-20x40mm is 6.5-20x magnification with a 40mm objective.
each power will generally have a field of view (F.O.V.) listed alongside it that will let you know how wide an area youll be able to see at each magnification.
the second is the objective size. the 30mm range is compact, 40mm is pretty much standard these days, and 50mm-56mm is a bigass scope. the larger the objective generally the more light the scope will let in and the brighter it will be in less ideal light conditions. generally 40mm is the highest people go for hunting use unless they intend to be making many fading light shots, since the 50mms are quite bulky, generally heavier, and are harder to mount low over the bore.
if you want something adaptable for general hunting use make sure it has a low power setting in its power range, something like 2.5x, 3x or 4x maximum. ie: dont get a scope with a rediculous range like 10-40x and expect to use it for hunting anything but varmints
thats it in a nutshell. i highly recommend you go and read the optics forum for a day or two and then go out and actually handle the scopes you want to buy (avoid salesmen in dept. store style outdoor shops since they generally dont know wtf theyre talking about) before you drop $1000 on a scope you know very little about. there are other variables in a scope and scope mounting such as tube size, AO, types of turrets and reticles, etc that you should know at least a little bit about and are covered here in the forums.
here is a very basic rundown of the different terminology youll find in scope specs:
http://www.nightvisionplanet.com/Articles.asp?ID=124
i havent read the entire thing so if something in there is wrong dont blame me
good luck
youll love the Sendero, theyre a great rifle
for example 2-7x40mm. that means you can turn a ring on the scope and adjust it from 2x magnification up to 7x magnification. 6.5-20x40mm is 6.5-20x magnification with a 40mm objective.
each power will generally have a field of view (F.O.V.) listed alongside it that will let you know how wide an area youll be able to see at each magnification.
the second is the objective size. the 30mm range is compact, 40mm is pretty much standard these days, and 50mm-56mm is a bigass scope. the larger the objective generally the more light the scope will let in and the brighter it will be in less ideal light conditions. generally 40mm is the highest people go for hunting use unless they intend to be making many fading light shots, since the 50mms are quite bulky, generally heavier, and are harder to mount low over the bore.
if you want something adaptable for general hunting use make sure it has a low power setting in its power range, something like 2.5x, 3x or 4x maximum. ie: dont get a scope with a rediculous range like 10-40x and expect to use it for hunting anything but varmints
thats it in a nutshell. i highly recommend you go and read the optics forum for a day or two and then go out and actually handle the scopes you want to buy (avoid salesmen in dept. store style outdoor shops since they generally dont know wtf theyre talking about) before you drop $1000 on a scope you know very little about. there are other variables in a scope and scope mounting such as tube size, AO, types of turrets and reticles, etc that you should know at least a little bit about and are covered here in the forums.
here is a very basic rundown of the different terminology youll find in scope specs:
http://www.nightvisionplanet.com/Articles.asp?ID=124
i havent read the entire thing so if something in there is wrong dont blame me
good luck
youll love the Sendero, theyre a great rifle
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Both the swarovski and the Zeiss scope have good glass, but both are typical hunting type scopes, that do not have turrets that will allow for fast and precise come ups to deal with the varying distances.
To clarify what you mean by "longer range" would be helpful.
My idea of long range hunting with a 7Rem Mag is out to 1000 yards at which point there is not enough energy left for a quick, certain kill. Bullet placement is critical with these smaller calibers. To get a 162 gr bullet from my 7 to 1000 yards means an elevation adjustment of 31.5 moa, which makes using a "hunting" type scope useless. Most of my rifles are fitted with Nightforce NXS scopes for this reason
If you feel the 400 yards is long range then the Swarovski or Zeiss will do, as you can sight 4" over 100 yard zero and still hit an animal most times.
In short for the money spent on the high end European optics there are better options if long range truly is the plan.
To clarify what you mean by "longer range" would be helpful.
My idea of long range hunting with a 7Rem Mag is out to 1000 yards at which point there is not enough energy left for a quick, certain kill. Bullet placement is critical with these smaller calibers. To get a 162 gr bullet from my 7 to 1000 yards means an elevation adjustment of 31.5 moa, which makes using a "hunting" type scope useless. Most of my rifles are fitted with Nightforce NXS scopes for this reason
If you feel the 400 yards is long range then the Swarovski or Zeiss will do, as you can sight 4" over 100 yard zero and still hit an animal most times.
In short for the money spent on the high end European optics there are better options if long range truly is the plan.
Constently hit at 400 with a remington 700 sonero. What is the pricing on the hightforce 3.5x15x50NXS
Zeiss Rapid Z 1000 yard reticle. Minor adjustments off each new crosshair rather than having to dial in 35 moa. I can't keep count worth a damn when I'm shooting. They have various other ranged reticles now as well for other calibers. This is the .308 one for 1000 yards. There's a 600 and I believe a 800 as well.
I purchased the Nightforce from Petter Dobson a dealer on the board. Great price. Great service.
QUOTE=mackillan;2179959]I purchased the Nightforce from Petter Dobson a dealer on the board. Great price. Great service.[/QUOTE]
You definately won't go wrong with that choice.
I'll be eventually getting one for my 7mm wildcat rifle. It's geared strictly for target shooting though.
You definately won't go wrong with that choice.
I'll be eventually getting one for my 7mm wildcat rifle. It's geared strictly for target shooting though.
