Savage 110 338 laupua load data please

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NINJABABY

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I got some of the Sierra 300 HPBT and retumbo powder and did some testing at 300 meters and I was not very pleased. Shot about 25 rounds in groups of 5 for each load from 83gr to 87gr (as per Lyman reloading manual) and I am not happy with the 5" group:mad:


Any one who is shooting the above firearm would like to share their reloading data please?

Thanks
 
How do you normally shoot?
I shot my first savage 110 338 lapua this afternoon. A friends rifle and I believe loaded with a lightish charge of Retumbo. I only took five shots but they were not much over an inch (just 100 yards) and I can gaurantee my shooting accounted for that.

You got a nice rifle btw. :)
 
warrenb said:
How do you normally shoot?
I shot my first savage 110 338 lapua this afternoon. A friends rifle and I believe loaded with a lightish charge of Retumbo. I only took five shots but they were not much over an inch and I can gaurantee my shooting accounted for that.

You got a nice rifle btw. :)
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I am normally a good shot and do a lot of shooting and have a good scope on it as well. I was shooting at 330 yards and best group I got was with the lightest Retumbo power 83gr and it was 2" group at 330 yards.

At what distance you were getting the 1" group?
 
Sorry edited my reply while you replied. But 100 yards. I normally shoot 223 and 308. I was surprised how nice the 338 shoots, the weight and break made it feel no worse than my BVSS 308. I know my apprehension of the 338 made the group size larger but it was close to an inch. It kinda impressed me.

I don't know the exact load data sorry.

Edit: One thing I would add. He had removed the bipod and I shot off a bench rest. I have zero experience with bipods. Not much but I tried to help.
 
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NINJABABY said:
I am normally a good shot and do a lot of shooting and have a good scope on it as well. I was shooting at 330 yards and best group I got was with the lightest Retumbo power 83gr and it was 2" group at 330 yards.

At what distance you were getting the 1" group?
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2" at 330, is just around .5-.6 MOA.. thats not bad.. but the rifle can do better, i personally would take that load, then change youe seating depth.

no offence, but im gonna guess that with 7posts your pretty new? so i will assume your seating to the lyman manual C.O.A.L? those are the OAL that will feed in any magazine and fit any chamber, and IMO are to short for top accuarcy from any rifle, take the time and figure out your max COAL that would put the bullet touching the lands, and make it about .015" shorter
 
This is my experience so far. I shot some more loads the other day with H4831SC and the results were somewhat promising. I have yet to shoot H1000 with the 300 SMK's but I just got two pounds of it today so I will load up some soon and report back. I only have 20 brass left that does not need trimming so untill I get my trimmer (hopefully this week) i'm pooched.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=611372&highlight=read+target
 
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Not sure how new your rifle is but after the first 60 rounds, my groups tightened from 4 inches to about a 1 to 1.5 inches at 100 metres using commercial Hornady 165 grain SST's. This is out of a model 10 BA 308 Win. I know I can shrink them more with practice and handloads.
 
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"...not happy with the 5" group..." What are you expecting? A Savage 110 isn't a target rifle. What it means is the rifle doesn't like the load.
 
The Kurgan said:
Not sure how new your rifle is but after the first 60 rounds, my groups tightened from 4 inches to about a 1 to 1.5 inches at 100 metres using commercial Hornady 165 grain SST's. This is out of a model 10 BA 308 Win. I know I can shrink them more with practice and handloads.
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What do you attribute that too? I'v found it can sometimes take me a good few hundred rounds to get really comfortable behind a new rifle.
 
I think every barrel is unique and requires varying amounts of break-in time. This model 10 really settled down quickly. I might add that the first 2 to 5 rounds are a bit wild, then its good to go! I find I am comfortable behind any rifle in relatively short order, dunno why -- perhaps my Reserve Unit days and range time experience using the FNC1A1, A2, and later, the C7.
 
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At 300 yds, a 5" group is ~1.5 MOA.... You may tighten it up a bit, but with about 80 rounds per pound of powder, it becomes a bit expensive. 10 twists are pushing the limit with 300's probably better off with 250's
 
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I just posted in another thread about a load that I have had great success with in the Savage 110BA in .338 Lapua. I use Lapua cases (expensive but well worth every penny!) trimmed to 2.716" (after first firing) federal 215 LR Mag primers, 88.0 grains of H1000 with a Sierra 300 grain HPBT seated at 3.730". You can try seating them between 3.723" and 3.730" to see what your particular rifle prefers. I've found that most Savage rifles of the same model and caliber have extremely similar and close tolerances. Give that load a try, it is remarkable in my rifle, one 5 shot ragged hole at 100 yards, best 3 shot group at 750 yards is 2.3". (I have pictures on my Motorola Razor and am not able to upload them, witnesses for all of those groups though.)
 
Revolution said:
Qucik question on why you need to trim your brass already? Have you measures you gun to find out your max case length?
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uniformity is key in the world of precission.. not every peice of brass will stretch the exact same. while lapua is of the highest quality, its just the nature of metalurgy.

brass that varies by a few thou will have differant ammount of surface contact with the bullet and that will change tention / firction etc of the bullet leaving the case when fired. while the ammouunt of change is miniscule and wont be noticed by any one then trophy winning pro's its just a good thing to do.

its like being hungry and having the choice between mcdonalds or steak, both will fill you up, but one deffinatly tastes better
 
Gentle Ben said:
I just posted in another thread about a load that I have had great success with in the Savage 110BA in .338 Lapua. I use Lapua cases (expensive but well worth every penny!) trimmed to 2.716" (after first firing) federal 215 LR Mag primers, 88.0 grains of H1000 with a Sierra 300 grain HPBT seated at 3.730". You can try seating them between 3.723" and 3.730" to see what your particular rifle prefers. I've found that most Savage rifles of the same model and caliber have extremely similar and close tolerances. Give that load a try, it is remarkable in my rifle, one 5 shot ragged hole at 100 yards, best 3 shot group at 750 yards is 2.3". (I have pictures on my Motorola Razor and am not able to upload them, witnesses for all of those groups though.)
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Have you measured your ogive?
 
So you guys Zero your gun at 100 to check the groups? I know it is a norm for any other caliber but even for 338 lapua, is it still 100?

What about the bullet stabilizing after 300???
 
IMO , especially if your loading your own ammo, 100yds is WAY to short, it will take 2x as much ammo and time, to load develope at 100, then it will out at 2 or better yet 300 yds. at 100 human error plays to much effect, that "jerk" of the trigger that sends a bullet 1/2" off the group, ruins it, but maybe out at 300 yds the load shoots 6" group any way..

check out mystic precissions web site and read up on ladder testing, and shoot for "groups" the furthest u can
 
Gentle Ben said:
I just posted in another thread about a load that I have had great success with in the Savage 110BA in .338 Lapua. I use Lapua cases (expensive but well worth every penny!) trimmed to 2.716" (after first firing) federal 215 LR Mag primers, 88.0 grains of H1000 with a Sierra 300 grain HPBT seated at 3.730". You can try seating them between 3.723" and 3.730" to see what your particular rifle prefers. I've found that most Savage rifles of the same model and caliber have extremely similar and close tolerances. Give that load a try, it is remarkable in my rifle, one 5 shot ragged hole at 100 yards, best 3 shot group at 750 yards is 2.3". (I have pictures on my Motorola Razor and am not able to upload them, witnesses for all of those groups though.)
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My 110ba is using essentially the same load. Lap OEM brass (trimmed), H1000 88.4 grains, 300 smk, 3.725", 215 fed mag match.

Any more powder than that and i start to have case stretch and primer slight shadowing.

I have shot one hole groups with this load. Generally 0.3-.4" groups.

P.S. I have been doing load development for 6 months and this one is my winner.
 
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