Savage 110 HS Precision .338 w/ bedded ATRS 30MOA base *Range update post #12*

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Replaced the 20moa aluminum EGW that comes with the rifle with the 30moa Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply Stainless steel one. This is the one for the 110BA, but the 110 FCP HS Precision uses the same 8-40 base screws. It is a piece of art in of itself. Very well made and worth the money in my opinion. As you'll see in later pics, the foot of the base runs the full length. The first pic is of the rifle before changing the base.

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A word of caution when installing this rail is that the very front 8-40 screw needs to be shortened considerably as it sits proud when it contacts the barrel threads. When I tightened down the front two screws, the back end sat up from the receiver a little. I took a true flat edge and checked the top of the rail and it was true, so I felt it best to bed the rail. Although it likely would have been fine cinched to the receiver with the slight bend.The zoom in makes it look much more dramatic than it really was. This is after it was bedded.

Update- went to insert bolt and realized the second of the front screws needed shortening as well as the bolt would contact it and not close- 30 seconds and it was fixed

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For bedding I used Devcon 10110 steel epoxy. I sprayed the receiver and 8-40 screws with Hornady One-shot Case lube as a release agent, used this for bedding a couple of rifles now and it works perfect. Cleaned up excess with cloth and WD-40. Left everything 'til the next night after work and disassembled and cleaned. It turned out pretty good and easier than I expected.

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I was a little nervous doing it and it might have been a little overkill, but I really wanted to make sure the rail would stay put under the recoil of the .338 LM. Already wasted a few rounds in load development when the factory EGW started to come loose...Argh!! At least I got some good velocity and pressure sign data out of it. I noticed the groups were pretty inconsistent, and at the end, I realized the base had worked loose.

The rest of the rifle is NXS 5.5-22x56mm NP-R2, Nightforce Ultralite rings, Tac-Pro cheek riser (the R700 HS Precision one) and a Caldwell bipod w/loc.
 

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One more pic of the whole rail installed...

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As a footnote, the rifle came from Frontier.
The Nightforce scope, rail and rings were all purchased from ATRS and they were just great to deal with.

One more pic for good measure...

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A few more showing the long screw, and the base itself.

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I have the same rail from Rick on my 110BA, and also bedded just because I could. I didn't feel it was needed as badly, as I thought the fit was VERY good. Mt $.02 anyway. Extremely nice rail, I am very satisfied with mine.

I had an identical issue with the front screw. But to be honest most savage rails are the same with too long front screw.
 
The EGW had the same deflection at the rear when the front two screws were tightened, so I suspect it probably had more to do with the receiver than the rail itself.
 
I was thinking of getting two Savage 10/110 BAs, one 10 BA "short action" in 308 and the 110 BA "Long Action" in 338. Has anyone had experience with these models? MOAs, preferred rounds, etc.
 
I was thinking of getting two Savage 10/110 BAs, one 10 BA "short action" in 308 and the 110 BA "Long Action" in 338. Has anyone had experience with these models? MOAs, preferred rounds, etc.

Ive got a 110 BA and its great. But your hackin this guys thread. Search and you'll find tons of info. If you have any questions about the 110 send me a PM if you like.

So has anyone got an ATRS rail that sat nice and didnt need bedding? I've only ever used Farrell rails and I have not had one yet that didn't sit perfect.

I wanted to pick one up for my 110 BA. Should I pass? Or buy one and give bedding it a try if need be? I have some Devcon Plastic Steel.
 
While mine needed bedding, I wouldn't compare the ATRS to the EGW as the ATRS is in a totally different league. Never had a Farrell though. If I had to do a rail on another of these rifles, I wouldn't hesitate at all again.
 
While mine needed bedding, I wouldn't compare the ATRS to the EGW as the ATRS is in a totally different league. Never had a Farrell though. If I had to do a rail on another of these rifles, I wouldn't hesitate at all.

Farrel is very nice and well made, but about 0.15" taller than most. Not a deal breaker but can be a pain in the butt if you need low or extra low rings already.
 
I'm headed to the range in the morning to see how this all turned out. I am suspecting that I have a little more than the 30moa the rail provides as the back is slightly raised. I have a NXS 5.5-22x56 so it shouldn't be a problem as they are at least 100moa of adjustment, but I would likely have not done this if using a scope that the rail would have been close with.
 
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Here's a quick update. Everything stayed together well and I lucked out in terms of vertical adjustment. I have a whopping 93moa up adjustment after zeroing the Nightforce at 100 yards. Not much left. Looks like the bedding of the 30moa rail ended up with a total of ~40moa.

Groups looked much more presentable too. I even shot a great 3 rd group using 89.0 grains of H100 pushing Hornady 285 BTHP bullets- 0.010 off the lands. I will have to load up some more at that load to see if it wasn't just a fluke as I had only 3 at that load. Everything else was 5. Unfortunately the range was a little busy today and felt a little pressure to get the rounds off quicker than I normally would so that others could return to the bench. My apologies to all that had to listen to this thing today in Drum.

I have an Atlas bipod on order for this rifle to replace the cheapo Caldwell- Harris knockoff, so I'll wait til that arrives before I do some more.

Overall, I'm pleased with the results.

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Sorry for the crappy sideways iphone pics.
 

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Nice group. Almost as good as mine lol. I'm trying some h1000 and it is doing good. I'm going to have to put my bullets closer to the lands and see how it goes. Good shooting.
 
Great shooting!

My new FCP HS in .338LM arrived a couple of weeks ago.

I shot one late last year and it's been on my "gun I want to own" list since!

As I was aware that the stockscope rail was aluminum, the first thing I wanted to do was change out the rail.

I was thinking of putting on a Warne steel base, as I used a Warne 20 moa steel rail on my Savage 10 BA (removed stock aluminum 3 rail).

I noticed you used a 30 moa rail on yours. The ATRS looks very nice BTW. I was thinking of using a 20 moa, I was wondering what the pros/cons are of 20 vs 30 moa?

Also, I have only ever used metal/metal rail mounting. As I am new to long range gun setups, is the use of an epoxy filler the way to go? Or is metal/metal still OK?

Oh, if it has anything to do with it as far as what rail moa to use, I have a NF 8-32x56 going onto my FCP HS.

Again, great shooting, if I can come close to that, I'll be very pleased.
 
I noticed you used a 30 moa rail on yours. The ATRS looks very nice BTW. I was thinking of using a 20 moa, I was wondering what the pros/cons are of 20 vs 30 moa?

Also, I have only ever used metal/metal rail mounting. As I am new to long range gun setups, is the use of an epoxy filler the way to go? Or is metal/metal still OK?

Oh, if it has anything to do with it as far as what rail moa to use, I have a NF 8-32x56 going onto my FCP HS.

Given that the 8-32x NXS has less adjustment than the 5.5-22x, I would recommend a +30 or +40 MOA rail. I had Rick at ATRS make me a custom +40 MOA rail for my M70 as the flat rail that I was using resulted in my being zeroed at +70 MOA internally. That didn't leave me with enough elevation to go past 1000m. Now I'm zeroed at +30 internally and have miles of adjustment to get to where I want to go. since the 8-32x has 8 MOA internal (IIRC, I'm too lazy to check) you may want to hedge your bets with at least +30 on the rail. It would all depend where your rifle zeroes at 100m with the stock rail. I would test it first and then tailor the taper of the new rail afterwards.

If in doubt, call and talk to Rick.
 
Nice group. Almost as good as mine lol. I'm trying some h1000 and it is doing good. I'm going to have to put my bullets closer to the lands and see how it goes. Good shooting.

Thanks. You had me laughing. Mine I think took alot of concentration and probably really the result of three wilder shots that just happened to get blown by the "right" wind into a good group- pure fluke 'cause I'm really not that good and I don't think I'd be able to do it again.

You did it more than once!!
 
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