Savage 12fvss .22-250 (update post 31 problem solved)

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Hey I recently sold my race car to free up some cash and the wife told me I should buy a new gun at least since I had to sell my baby.....

I picked up a Savage 12fvss .22-250 with the accutrigger topped it with millet bases and 30mm rings and finished it off with a Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30x50mm mildot.

I have not shot this gun yet but am thinking of bedding it right off the hop its supposed to be dual pillar bedded from the factory but I figure its still not 100% true.

Question is should I bed it now or wait till I shoot it? I will only be going out to a max of 500yds with this rifle for now.

What do you think any tips or advise from people who own Savage 12's
 
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Ya that's what I figured bedding can only help.

I am wanting to bed my SS Weatherby Vanguard in .257wby as well when I tighten up my action screws it feels mushy when tightening it up it doesn't get really tight like it should and I keep getting flyers.

Thanks for the offer Jerry but I would like to try this myself as I have a few rifles I would like to do as well as a few friends have asked once I get mine done if I can do theirs as well so I might as well learn. I do need a trigger for my Weatherby though do you have any in stock?...

Are there any good links for bedding these two particular rifles?I believe a full length bed job on the vanguard would be best. I have seen some info on the savages saying only the area's where the action screws are and recoil lug need bedding but then I see others also bed the barrel nut?.......

Thanks for the info so far!
 
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Well I'm not sure about the synthetic stock on the fvss, but I have the bvss in 22-250 and without touching a thing it shoots 1/4 moa. So for what its worth putting a couple rounds down the tube can't hurt. Plus, 22-250 is nice and easy on the pocket book compared to most other calibers.
No matter what you decide, I bet she is going to be real good shooter!
 
Go_Go_Kapow said:
Well I'm not sure about the synthetic stock on the fvss, but I have the bvss in 22-250 and without touching a thing it shoots 1/4 moa. So for what its worth putting a couple rounds down the tube can't hurt. Plus, 22-250 is nice and easy on the pocket book compared to most other calibers.
No matter what you decide, I bet she is going to be real good shooter!
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Thanks for the info if you don't mind me asking what loads work best for you?.....my old Savage 10 predator 1-12 twist liked 50gr Vmax's over 34gr RL 10x.....that's where I was going to start off.....
 
There are several posts in this forum and the Gunsmithing forum. 6mmBR.com has several. Google and you will find lots.

Learning how to bed is a very nice skill to develop. Just use a good release agent and lots of it. If it doesn't go as well as you would like, a dremel cures all ills.

But if the metal doesn't separate from the 'wood', things get a lot more frustrating :)

Jerry
 
Thanks Jerry both of my rifles are synthetic stocks so no worries about the wood and thanks for the tips on finding info on bedding!.......

Do you think putting a trigger in my weatherby would make a big difference? do you have any in stock?
 
I have the same rifle and have had it for four years. It is the best shooting rifle I have ever had. Before you spend a dime on it give it a go. Try four different 55 grain bullets in front of 40 grains of H380. I bet one of those will give you what you are looking for. I have killed two coyotes over 500 yards with mine ( 571 and 552). One day I killed four straight with four shots all over 400 yards ,witnessed. I wish my other rifles shot so well. The other day while wrestling with a Kimber, to make myself feel good I shot 3 out of my Savage. A cloverleaf 1.5 inches high at 100 yards at 12 oclock. as usual.
 
Thanks for that post bwest270 if my rifle can manage groups like that then I would just leave it alone for now. Maybe I will give it a shot as is and see where its at first before tinkering.

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As to the Vanguard a timney trigger will make a huge difference.. My buddies sure did any way...
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Ya that's what I hear I'm not over happy with the accuracy of the rifle as is so a trigger and a bedding job might help it out some.
 
Best groups shot with mine, were 1.006" at 200y, by the guy I bought it from, and I've gotten as good as a .310" at 100y (both 5 shot groups). These are not all day type of groups. It can very reliably be counted on for .75" at 100y. This is with 55gr BlitzKings and 34.5gr Varget. I've got a Mueller APV Scope, in Weaver rings, so optics are as basic as can be.
The only mod I've done, is put in a single shot follower from MysticPrecision. Perhaps when I buy a new barrel, I'll go to the trouble of bedding, but for my purposes, it works very well.
If .75" isn't good enough, then I'd say bed it. It'd be very reasonable to expect similar groups (better, if you know how to shoot :redface:)
 
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Thanks for the info if you don't mind me asking what loads work best for you?.....my old Savage 10 predator 1-12 twist liked 50gr Vmax's over 34gr RL 10x.....that's where I was going to start off.....
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Well it seems like it likes everything I have put down the barrel. I started out shooting 60gr V-max at 3400 with Varget. And now I shoot a 52gr Berger match Varmint at 3660fps. It has been a while since I reloaded for it. But I believe that I used 36.6 gr of varget to get them there.

But the 50gr V-max should work just fine for you. Good luck!
 
Thanks I have a whack load of 40gr and 50gr Vmax's so I will be using those for now I picked up some RL 10x and some IMR4895 as I could not find any H380......I'll post my results when I get time to sit down for a day and do up some loads...
 
Well went to the range yesterday and was quite unhappy when my scope ran out of adjustment and I was still hitting 2.5ft left of my POA. I took the gun into the shop where I bought the scope and they swapped the millet windage adjustable rings for burris zee rings. I grabbed two boxes of factory Hornady ammo loaded with 55gr vmax's just to make sure its not my hand loads.

I went out to the range again today and the same thing ran out of windage adjustment and was still 2.5ft left of my aiming point. I went back to the shop where I got the scope and they thought it was the gun i.e. bent barrel.....I said ok if its the barrel when we put the lazer bore sighter in the barrel we should run out of windage like I do at the range?. If the barrel is in fact pointing off center then we shouldnt be able to line up the red dot with the crosshairs of the scope correct?. The fact that the scope bore sights perfect and gives me the exact same left/right adjustment makes me think the scopre is way out of whack?......

Anyone have experience with this elite 6500 being DOA? dispite this I managed to put 4 rounds thought the same hole at 50yds despite being 2.5ft left.....lol......


I'm going back to the range tomorrow to make the final decision on weather its the gun or scope if it was in fact the scope they did not have another mil dot recticle instock only a fine duplex 6500 4.5-30x50mm so thats whats on the gun now question is do I need mill dot for going out to 500yds max?.....I'm kind of pissed I spent $1000 on this scope and now its not even the one I want if it was the scope should I make them order a mil-dot with a 2-3mth wait or should I just take this one?.....
 
just borrow a scope from a friend and try.....
if you see the same picture - it`s rifle...if not - just return the scope and get a Leupold instead :)))
 
I had a very similar problem with my Savage Model 12 when I first got it except I was 8 feet off at 100 yards. For me, it had nothing to do with scopes, rings, bases etc.. but it was the barrel, just one from a Friday afternoon apparently.

Make sure your scope actually lines up with your barrel. Usually when things are off that much, you are able to see the scope is out of line with the barrel, or the barrel is actually bent a little bit. In my case, nothing was out of whack that was visible, the bore didn't have any visible defects. It was really just a mystery until we switched the barrel and it just fixed itself.

Mine also lined up when bore sighted, but on paper it didn't even come close, even at 10 yards it was way off and I was out of windage. Thankfully, PEIROB looked at it for me and he had another .223 Savage barrel around, so he swapped that out and it shot great, for a factory barrel anyway.
 
Well if it ends up being the rifle I don't think I will go through all the hassle of paying a gun smith to fix it I'll just be returning it as I bought it not even 1 week ago from a shop BNIB.....Another shop has a BVSS instock I'll just buy that instead......but if for some reason the shop wont take it back then I guess I'm stuck....
 
Hmmm, Well this might be one possibility, and I've seen mainly with Remingtons. That is the holes tapped for the scope bases are not true to the barrel. A cheap way to fix that is buy leupold rings with the windage adjustment built in the rear ring (I think is called "windage adjustment"). then that should correct the factory defect.
But as I say I have only herd of Remington having this problem. So perhaps before bailing out on the rifle give this a thought.
Though my vote is with the BVSS haha. I LOVE mine! Well good luck.
 
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