Savage 12FVSS in .308
- Thread starter Gnomon
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It is not a "precision" rifle, it is a factory sporter rifle. Some shoot quite well (Less than 1 MOA), others less so. Above all, find a rifle that fits your physique and your budget and have fun. Brands are not important.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
Biggest weakness is the stock. That is why I recommended the BVSS which has a laminated stock that fits more shooters very well.
You don't need a stainless action but these are the only ones Savage puts nicer stocks on.
If you go with this rifle, you should reinforce the forend especially if you plan on using a bipod. proper bedding should also be done as the inletting is way too generous.
The stock work is pretty easy and gives you a chance to add alot of weight if planning on shooting F class.
Overall, a decent rifle but I feel the CM blued rifles are less money and shoot just as well. The 12FV should be $100 to $150 less money then the SS versions. I would put that money towards a better stock/stock work, optics, trigger and reloading gear.
Jerry
You don't need a stainless action but these are the only ones Savage puts nicer stocks on.
If you go with this rifle, you should reinforce the forend especially if you plan on using a bipod. proper bedding should also be done as the inletting is way too generous.
The stock work is pretty easy and gives you a chance to add alot of weight if planning on shooting F class.
Overall, a decent rifle but I feel the CM blued rifles are less money and shoot just as well. The 12FV should be $100 to $150 less money then the SS versions. I would put that money towards a better stock/stock work, optics, trigger and reloading gear.
Jerry
lineofsight
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Lower Mainland, BC
I just paid $500 for the same in .223 including a 20moa rail (stock had been painted but not a biggie) and fellow also included some components as an extra which was very cool.
If $700 for about $125 more I would rather buy new - first owner, warranty... personal preference. (think the one you're talking about has been up for over a month....)
Different people have different definitions for "precision" if I can get a <.5 moa group at 300m thats precision for me while for Obtunded that would be the equivalent of minute of barn.
If you're looking for a "starter" precision rifle and you're working on your shooting then may work quite well. When want better accuracy (and you've put some wear on barrel from practice), then are a couple dealers on the forum that can help you with a screw on match barrel for your Savage and can take it to the next level (for a fairly low incremental price). Trigger is good/adjustable, but if want to can swap it out (for a fairly low incremental price), are also better stock options. Just depends on what your plan is.
As you asked for a "starter" rifle, think anything under $600 that has adjustable trigger and upgrade potential quite good. I am waiting on laminate target stock with adjustable cheek piece for the Savage I picked up. Total price for stainless steel heavy barreled adjustable trigger rifle in laminate thumbhook adjustable cheek piece stock just under $1000 excluding an optic... am happy with that.
Can also buy Rem 5R new with good HS precision stock for $1200. $500 more than this 700 Savage but stock about $400 of that thus only $150 (tax) more to buy new...
If $700 for about $125 more I would rather buy new - first owner, warranty... personal preference. (think the one you're talking about has been up for over a month....)
Different people have different definitions for "precision" if I can get a <.5 moa group at 300m thats precision for me while for Obtunded that would be the equivalent of minute of barn.
If you're looking for a "starter" precision rifle and you're working on your shooting then may work quite well. When want better accuracy (and you've put some wear on barrel from practice), then are a couple dealers on the forum that can help you with a screw on match barrel for your Savage and can take it to the next level (for a fairly low incremental price). Trigger is good/adjustable, but if want to can swap it out (for a fairly low incremental price), are also better stock options. Just depends on what your plan is.
As you asked for a "starter" rifle, think anything under $600 that has adjustable trigger and upgrade potential quite good. I am waiting on laminate target stock with adjustable cheek piece for the Savage I picked up. Total price for stainless steel heavy barreled adjustable trigger rifle in laminate thumbhook adjustable cheek piece stock just under $1000 excluding an optic... am happy with that.
Can also buy Rem 5R new with good HS precision stock for $1200. $500 more than this 700 Savage but stock about $400 of that thus only $150 (tax) more to buy new...
So if you were to suggest two guns, both upgradeable, for around $600, and I was to then get the rings, bases and scope, what would you suggest I look for?
Let's assume that I'm not going to start switching barrels right away. I've heard Remington 700 mentioned a lot, and Savage 10 or 12 as well. Unfortunately there is such an abundance of models for either brand, that without having the experience to know what I need, I'm a bit lost.
It looks like my SIG P226R has sold, so I'm good to move ahead with doing something.
Rob
Let's assume that I'm not going to start switching barrels right away. I've heard Remington 700 mentioned a lot, and Savage 10 or 12 as well. Unfortunately there is such an abundance of models for either brand, that without having the experience to know what I need, I'm a bit lost.
It looks like my SIG P226R has sold, so I'm good to move ahead with doing something.
Rob
I really enjoy my 12FVSS in .308. I don't even notice the plastic stock. The gun is more accurate than I am. I don't shoot much past 300 yards yet anyway. That being said.... if I could get it in the BVSS stock instead, I would. I prefer the look of wood much more than plastic. Great gun. Super accurate. I paid $500 for mine but I consider that a pretty good deal. $600 or $700 wouldn't be too bad.
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