A few years back hen 17hmr first came out I though it was a gimmick. Then, working at wholesale, I heard so much about them. "Oh their wonderful", "Oh they are laser beams" But I still wouldnt give in. $20 for 50 rds was the clincher for me. Then My ex bought one and we went gopher hunting. I ended up buying a 17 after that because out to 200 it is every bit as effective on gophers as a .223. And her $300 rile shot as well as my $1000 rifle and weighed ALOT less.
It is so easy to take the non-accutriger savages and make a wicked triggerpull too. Great guns. Match accuracy for $300 and a pop can. The 20 gr bullets are suposed to be geared to killing coyotes. Havent tried that yet, but man, using the V max bullets, just make sure you dont shoot a gopher from too close, or you'll get gopher on your shoes like did! Accurate as hell and damn near explosive at close range. I love these little wonders. I was wrong about 17. Its not a gimmick. But the ammo does cost almost the same as .223 ammo so its not for plinking in the same volume as you would with a .22
For gophers out to 500 I still like my .223 tho. The little wonder cant do everything.
And surprisingly, they have a very dissapointing efect on magpies.