savage 17hmr optics?

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hello all

Picking up a savage 17hmr on a trade looking to finally get into presion shooting. Small gun but i think it will be a perfect starter any ideas on a great choice for optics and why? Just learning all the good stuff now so be gental.

thank you in advance

Brian
 
If you will be shooting critters with it, it will be valuable to have a variable power scope that goes down low enough to have a good field of view at low range. I'd suggest something in the 4-14x range, roughly. You may want something with parallax adjustment, whether that's AO or side focus, as you can focus at close range sharply. That's esp valuable for shots that might vary from 25 yards out to 200.
 
Sorry Not very fluent with the scope jargon parallax is that a fancy name for the focus for each power option. Thanks griz for your patience this area of the firearms world has always intrested me but is overwhelming for sure always been a iron sights guy till now
 
Grizzlypeg said:
If you will be shooting critters with it, it will be valuable to have a variable power scope that goes down low enough to have a good field of view at low range. I'd suggest something in the 4-14x range, roughly. You may want something with parallax adjustment, whether that's AO or side focus, as you can focus at close range sharply. That's esp valuable for shots that might vary from 25 yards out to 200.
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Excellent advice.
 
safetyalwaysfirst said:
Sorry Not very fluent with the scope jargon parallax is that a fancy name for the focus for each power option. Thanks griz for your patience this area of the firearms world has always intrested me but is overwhelming for sure always been a iron sights guy till now
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Parallax is the phenomenon where a shift in perspective (in this case, your eye at the scope moving around) causes an appearance of movement beneath the crosshairs. A scope can only be set to be parallax free at a single distance. To overcome this, some scopes have either an adjustable objective (lense nearest the object you are looking at) or side focus. They both achieve the same thing, allow parallex to be set and to sharpen focus. Rimfire scopes lacking parallax adjustment are set for a closer distance, and centrefire scopes are set for much further out. At low power settings (3 or 4x), its hard to notice the difference, but at higher magnification (say 14 or 16 x), the focus and parallax error becomes more noticeable to the eye.
 
I've found the Elite 3200 series offers great bang for your buck when it comes to 17's in the gopher patch.
 
I'm running a 4200 Elite 4-16 with side focus. It's got a sharp image, fine reticle and 1/8" adjustments, low target turrets. For shots from zero to 100 yards, you can zero the gun at 100 and be out by not much at 50 yards. I'm really impressed with what the gun (a Cz varmint) can do for groups at 100 yards. I'd say its the most accurate of all my rifles at 100 yards, and relative to centre fire ammo, cheap to shoot.
 
safetyalwaysfirst said:
What was the price of the 4200 if you don't mind me asking griz, also what kinda groups were you getting just outside of 100+.
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Its a model 42-4164SF that I was fortunate enough to pick up used on the equipment exchange. It looks like it was over $500 new.

I was doing some plinking at 200 yards to see the holdover, but I dont have a proper group size measurement to share. At 100 yards I was shooting consistent 3/4" 5 shot groups with the 17 grain Hornady ammo. I can't do that with my other rifles consistently. It's one heck of a good gun at that distance.
 
this is definitly a green horn question but later on is it possible to keep the scope when i go to a larger caliber. looking around at reviews and i know you should always take online reviews with a grain of salt but the "sweet 17" optics seem to be getting great reviews. thoughts? i will obviously be looking at the equipment exchange once i learn enuff to be confident on my buy.
 
The thing I noticed about Sweet xx reviews were that they were highly polarized. Some thought they were great, and others said the scope arrived from the factory defective. From the discussions on rimfire central, it sounds like a high number shipped are defective.

17hmr has next to no recoil. I would think a Bushnell rimfire scope would serve you well on a budget. I have a couple of rifles with Meuller APV scopes on them 4.5-14 with AO and they are a good scope for the roughly $200 price tag. I heard good things about them on rimfire central where they are popular with the 22 cal crowd, and available a fair bit cheaper in the States, which helped make them popular there.

If you buy a quality scope, you can certainly reuse it on a larger caliber, as long as the parallax is adjustable, or compatible with both uses. My brother in law has a Zeiss Conquest scope on his 17hmr, same scope he also uses on his 300WSM hunting rifle.
 
If you have $375 to spend, there is a Bushnell 3200 5-15x40 Tactical in the EE. I have one of those and they are a nice scope. You could build from experience your own chart of drop at various distances and have the ability to hit right on out to 200+ yards with a 17hmr. And it has AO.
 
Grizzly thank you for all of this info you are definitly a great guy to talk to about this for sure. What do the numbers meen in the discription of scopes? I do apologize for the totally basic questions
 
For the above example: Bushnell 3200 (the series of Busnell) 5-15x40 AO

5 is the minimum magnification 15 is the maximum magnification, 40 is the size of the objective lens in milimeters (large lens that faces the object being viewed) AO is adjustable objective, meaning the objective lense group can be turned to adjust it for a close distance focus (and parallax) out to infinity. The tactical aspect of this scope is that it has mildots (dots marking 1/1000th distance at a certain magnification) on the reticle (crosshairs) and it has large finger adjustable knobs that externally adjust up and down and left and right in 1/4" per 100 yard increments.
 
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