savage 212 vs browning a-bolt slug guns

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May be in the market for a slug gun. I was planning to use this in heavy brush, and on the move. Probably just for whitetail. Not intending on adding a scope, just using the irons (or hi-viz etc) Doubtful that there would be any shooting beyond 50yds, and even that would be stretching it...25yds would be more typical. So this is what I'm looking at:

Savage 212 12ga
Browning a-bolt 12ga.

Opinions on which is "better" ? The browning is double the cost, is it worth it? I was also considering the Savage 220 in 20ga, but unsure if the 20ga is too light or not...or if the 12ga is too heavy.....thoughts??

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If you aren't big on lever guns try the savage model 340. They are relatively cheap to buy and good shooters. Bolt action, detachable mag, .30/30. If u want to use a shotgun for the conditions you describe, I would use a smoothbore and rifled slugs.
 
I bet you are right Arch. Those brownings are sweet. I wasn't that impressed with the tupperware feel of the savage slugger. They both shoot well and each has a different rate of twist. Big bucks for the browning though.
 
I wouldn't worry about a 20 gauge slug being too light for deer at 50 yards. I would worry about a 12 gauge bolt action shotgun being heavy and unwieldy in thick bush. A lever rifle would work great too.


I really wish Browning would make a 20 gauge version of their A-bolt, I'd buy it.
 
For what you are describing, if you need a shotgun, I would go with a 870 slug gun. 50 yards, open sights...go with smoothbore. Slugs are much cheaper than sabots. No problems at all in shooting minute of deer with that rig.
 
If considering a pump I'd go mossberg 500.
I've handled both the savage and browning. I liked the savage but I've found HnR slug guns to feel more balanced and natural. Also cheaper if that's a consideration. A 3030 or 35 whelen or 4570 are great in thick bush. Everything deflects but heavier slow moving bullets deflect to lesser extent

Maybe a 444marlin or a 44mag ruger carbine
 
If you want a shotgun that gives similar performance of a rifle, I would be looking at a rifled slug gun, with a pinned barrel. I shot a remington 870 sps shurshot superslug gun, and had no problem hitting 200 yard targets, once I determined the correct crosshair placement. It had a vortex diamondback 1.5x5x32 scope on it, and when the scope was set at the low 1.5x setting, the field of view was so wide, that a deer running at 25 yards or so, would of been easy to locate quickly when looking through the scope. It has a medium heavy fluted 24"barrel that is pinned to the reciever, and the reciever is drilled & tapped, so the scope mounted really solid to the reciever. The gun weighs around 8lbs, but it does'nt feel heavy because its got good balance, and the grippy rubber inserts with the pistol grip shurshot stock is really nice, and shoulders quickly, if a fast moving deer presented itself out of knowere then you would be ready fast to take a shot.

These guns are around $600, and the sabots are'nt cheap, but you don't target shoot with a benchrest with a slug gun, so the price of ammo is'nt really a big deal if you only buy a few boxes of sabots every season to double check the sighting on the scope, and a little bit of practise.

The nice thing about a really accurate slug gun that shoots sabots, is that the gun really is a jack of all trades, and can be used to hunt other animals than just deer. After your familiar with it, you can hunt coyote out to 200 yards, or even take it moose hunting. I'm sure a 12 gauge sabot would have no problem dropping a moose thats 150-200 yards away, if you do your part, unlike a lever action 30-30 that is really only usefull for deer hunting within 150 yards max.

I'm sure the savage bolt action 12 gauge slug guns would give similar performance because I think they are similar, with the barrel pinned to the reciever & drilled & tapped in the reciever for mounting optics.

With all of that being said, if you hunt deer in a part of Ontario that allows rifles, then I would buy a .270 or .308 bolt action rifle. A 24" barrel is'nt difficult to bushwack with compared to a 20" barrel...its only 4" longer. If your looking for a short barreled rifle however, then take a look at a scout rifle, like a ruger.

Another option, is a nice handling, light, semi auto rifle. At the deer camp I hunt at during the fall, about half of the hunters use a ruger mini-30. It is very light, and compact, and fires a 7.62x39 cartridge, which gives similar performance to a 30/30 lever action, but its semi auto, so its a favorite at our hunt camp with the old timers that have diminished eyesight, and have adopted the spray and pray method of hunting......they spray, and I pray that the deer is'nt between them and me..lol.
 
Look at the Harrington Richards ultra slug hunter, or ultra light slug hunter. Comes in 20 and 12 ga. mag. I'm leaning to the 20 ga. ultra slug hunter. It's a little heavier than the ultra light [8 or 9 lbs comp to 6 or 7lbs.] Just sayin'.:)
 
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