Savage 24F

mmatt

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I couldn't decide which forum to post this in as it it is both a shotgun and a rimfire; and the "Hunting and Sporting Arms" forum seems to focus more on centre-fire. So "General Discussion" it is! :) edited to add: (Well, it looks like it's in "Hunting and Sporting Arms" after all)

Here is my new favorite firearm:

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As you can probably see from the picture, it is the .22 over 20 gauge model. A few minor gripes aside, it is (in my opinion anyway) just about the best small game firearm a person could own. It is just a tad on the heavy side for upland birds but I bagged a few Ruffies with it a few weekends ago anyway, and the birds didn't seem to mind. ;) It sure was nice having the .22 for the sitting rabbit I saw and of course to plink a few mushrooms. Thirty-six grains of lead traveling at 1280 fps sure make short work of the shrooms! :D

I am a "scoped-rifle man" myself and I am having just a little trouble getting used to the iron sights. I replaced the rear sight with a green-tubed 'hi-vis' and put a dab of florescent orange on the front. The sights really stand out for me now and with a bit more practice, I think I'll be able to take rabbit sized game out to 75 yards or so.

Number 6 shot out of the permanently modified choked barrel produces an acceptable pattern for either rabbit or grouse out to about 40 yards and is almost exactly centered with the sights. Slugs hit about 4 inches high and 2 inches to the left at 50 yards. That kind of disappointed me until I realized that If I were to hunt larger game using slugs, I'd probably throw on a scope. Since I doubt that I'll actually ever use this for larger game, it's really a non-issue.

The barrel drops open quite easily with a push of the rear mounted tang and the barrel selector is on the hammer. It doesn't get any simpler than that! :cool: The trigger is a little heavy but there is absolutely no pre-travel. If I can figure out how to lighten it down to about 5 pounds, it would be just about perfect.

Now for the gripes:

- As I mentioned before, it's a bit heavy. The specs list it at 8 pounds and although I don't have a scale, it certainly feels to be every once of it.

- the .22 barrel seems to somewhat mis-aligned. I had to tap the front sight to the right a bit so that the rear sight (being moved as far left as possible) remained tight enough it it's groove that I wouldn't worry about it falling off out in the woods. As I mentioned before, I'm more of a scope man, so can anyone tell me if this is normal? or am I looking at some sort of flaw? I'm not worried too much about it as it seems to shoot straight for me now but I'm still thinking that this is odd.

- One of my biggest gripes of all is the fact that it has a cross-bolt safety! The Cooey 840 that I own doesn't have one and it seems to be safe enough!! Why the heck did they have to ruin the look of a perfectly safe firearm with a second safety?!? AHHHHhhhhhh!!!!! :eek: (pssst! don't tell anyone but I think I might take it out, grind off one end, re-blue it and re-install it in the "off-safe" position permanently) ;)

- The 20 gauge barrel is attached at the front with a ring that is slightly too big. A few shims from a took out the slack. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough play to allow me to line it up so that the slugs lined up with the sights though. Oh well.

- And my final gripe; as you can see from the pictures below, there seems to be some wear on the block below the barrels, and on the receiver where the block fits in.

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The circle marked "1" is normal while the circle marked "2" shows significant wear. Hopefully it's worn as far as it's going to as I'm pretty sure it might be difficult to get warranty work done from across the border.

Anyway, that's my review. I know it seems to end on quite a few negative points, but remember that they are all relatively minor and they in no way take away from the sheer versatility of this fine firearm out in the field.

Matthew
 
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I am a "scoped-rifle man" myself and I am having just a little trouble getting used to the iron sights. I replaced the rear sight with a green-tubed 'hi-vis' and put a dab of florescent orange on the front. The sights really stand out for me now and with a bit more practice, I think I'll be able to take rabbit sized game out to 75 yards or so.

Number 6 shot out of the permanently modified choked barrel produces an acceptable pattern for either rabbit or grouse out to about 40 yards and is almost exactly centered with the sights. Slugs hit about 4 inches high and 2 inches to the left at 50 yards. That kind of disappointed me until I realized that If I were to hunt larger game using slugs, I'd probably throw on a scope. Since I doubt that I'll actually ever use this for larger game, it's really a non-issue.


My father has the 24 C (smaller lighter and very rare) He put a red dot on his and really enjoyed it for bunnies and ruffies.
His does shoot slugs and .22 relatively close on center, have you tried the accuracy without your shims in place? It might shoot just fine. Other than that, maybe try some different ammo and see if you can find 2 that shoot the same.

Why new hammer guns need a cross bolt is beyond me, it sure ruins the look of all of those nice levers out there! I as well would be tempted to remove it!

I have owned a couple of these myself, the weight really turned me off, I do like the compact model though.
 
I too prefer the C model and if I could have found one, it would have been it that had just been reviewed. :D Until I can find one, this one will have to do.

If I don't ever find a C model, I may have this one sent off to the gunsmith to have the barrels shortened to 20 inches and the 20 gauge barrel threaded for choke tubes. That should shave a pound or so off the weight and maybe he can line up the barrels better for me too.

I have tried shooting 20 gauge slugs with and without the shims with negligible difference. This is not a huge issue for me though as it will rarely, if ever, be used as a slug gun.

Matthew
 
I had an older savage set up the sam with wood stocks and was case hardened... 222 over 20gauge Hope you have better luck with yours... Mine literally blew apart after 40rds... 1 barrel went one way the other barrel the other way.. Was quite scary actually... Savage said it was amunition issue remington said it was a gun issue after over a hundred dollars in shipping to the 2 manufactures and having them both blame the other company the shop i bought it at to liability for it and refunded my coin... It was brand new and i have seen many more out there that seem to work fine... Excellent set up if it works for you!
 
My old man had one when I was a kid. It was 20/.22 mag. It was some sort of a fancy one as it had a scence scribed into the side and had a gold plated trigger or something IIRC. It was the first .22 mag I ever shot, and also the first shotgun.
He does not have it any more unfortuantly.
 
I have had the 24F in .22mag/20g and it is likely my favourite gun. I have hunted many rabbits with it and I love the versatility of it. It has been flawless and incredibly reliable. I've managed to become reasonably proficient with the iron sights and actually prefer the irons to a red-dot I tried on it a while ago. I couldn't imagine parting with it.

Best of luck with yours.
 
I have owned a 24H-DL in .22/20ga. for 40 years, and used it plenty. I haven't got any complaints about it. I love the little gun.:p:p
 
like everyone else has mentioned, a great little game getter. i have a 24H-DL. can anyone tell me what the dl means...or anything about the h model in general? its a 22mag/20ga and has a grouse engraved on one side and a fox on the other. it always comes along on a hunting trip.
 
Had one when I was in highschool,for some reason 24-v sticks in my memory of it. Was a 222rem/20 gauge. Great little squirrel and pheasant gun until it locked up,one day. Seems they had a habit of doing this I later found out. Something about the ejectors sticking. Was a nice little gun though.
 
I've got a couple .22/.410's (no safety, just hammer). I updated both with the new series hammer selector from the side frame selector. Its quite a bit lighter than the 'bigger' models.

Would love to get a .22/20ga.

Of all my guns, I still find that when I head out for small game it's hard to not choose the old 24.
 
I keep trying to like them and have owned three Savage 24's but they are poorly built, heavy, and the barrels don't shoot the the same point of impact. They seem better in theory than practise, at least in my experience. Tried a Valmet and a Brno, they were built better but way too big and heavy. I finally gave up and spent the coin on a Merkel combination gun. Now that's a well built firearm! but not one I'd throw behind the truck seat. Just can't have it both ways. Sigh.
 
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