savage 99 magnetic barrel??

[Rman]

“The Savage 99 Hybrid Rail Gun was first developed in the mid 30's by well-known Savage engineer Gerald Finch. Finch first came up with the idea when he noticed the effects strong magnetic floor sweepers had on the machine shop floor cuttings. The thought was that a heavily magnetized barrel would add significant stabilization to projectiles charged with an opposing magnetic force. While research and development funding was outright refused by Savage, Finch continued on his own in secret, while still using company equipment and resources. After several months of work, a single prototype was produced, as well as accompanying projectiles. The rifle was mounted with an early Lyman scope, and testing began. At targets as close as 50 yards, the results were less than satisfactory, and showed no significant improvement over standard rounds and rifles. Once the targets were moved progressively to 300 yards, the rifle, and ammunition started to shine. Groups were approaching one inch. A great improvement over the standard rifle and ammunition's 4 and 5 inch efforts. There was only one issue. Finch's range was perfectly orientated along the axis of the magnetic north and magnetic south poles. This fact would remain unknown to Finch for the remainder of his life. When Finch, exasperated by Savages lack of interest, brought forth the new rifle to management, a demonstration was arranged. The rifle and ammunition failed dismally. A frustrated Finch begged for another opportunity, but once management found out that Finch had spent a significant amount of unauthorized time, money, and resources on the project, he was terminated on the spot, the rifle, and ammunition confiscated. Finch could not understand what went wrong, he returned to the range. Not finding any issues, he, and his idea faded into obscurity. It was not until some 50 years later that the research was re-discovered. Another Savage engineer, Albert Conrad, had a hunch. Taking a compass to the Savage test range, he found it ran East to West. Following a further hunch, and a visit to Finch's former property, now turned bowling alley, the discovery was made about Finch's north to south orientation. Records also show that Savage sold the rifle as a plain model 99 to try to recover some of the costs. This rifle would be considered to be highly collectible, and near priceless if recovered.”


R.

 

[m-134]

“The Savage 99 Hybrid Rail Gun was first developed in the mid 30's by well-known Savage engineer Gerald Finch. Finch first came up with the idea when he noticed the effects strong magnetic floor sweepers had on the machine shop floor cuttings. The thought was that a heavily magnetized barrel would add significant stabilization to projectiles charged with an opposing magnetic force. While research and development funding was outright refused by Savage, Finch continued on his own in secret, while still using company equipment and resources. After several months of work, a single prototype was produced, as well as accompanying projectiles. The rifle was mounted with an early Lyman scope, and testing began. At targets as close as 50 yards, the results were less than satisfactory, and showed no significant improvement over standard rounds and rifles. Once the targets were moved progressively to 300 yards, the rifle, and ammunition started to shine. Groups were approaching one inch. A great improvement over the standard rifle and ammunition's 4 and 5 inch efforts. There was only one issue. Finch's range was perfectly orientated along the axis of the magnetic north and magnetic south poles. This fact would remain unknown to Finch for the remainder of his life. When Finch, exasperated by Savages lack of interest, brought forth the new rifle to management, a demonstration was arranged. The rifle and ammunition failed dismally. A frustrated Finch begged for another opportunity, but once management found out that Finch had spent a significant amount of unauthorized time, money, and resources on the project, he was terminated on the spot, the rifle, and ammunition confiscated. Finch could not understand what went wrong, he returned to the range. Not finding any issues, he, and his idea faded into obscurity. It was not until some 50 years later that the research was re-discovered. Another Savage engineer, Albert Conrad, had a hunch. Taking a compass to the Savage test range, he found it ran East to West. Following a further hunch, and a visit to Finch's former property, now turned bowling alley, the discovery was made about Finch's north to south orientation. Records also show that Savage sold the rifle as a plain model 99 to try to recover some of the costs. This rifle would be considered to be highly collectible, and near priceless if recovered.”


R.

intresting, got anymore info?

 

[ErikT]

“The Savage 99 Hybrid Rail Gun was first developed in the mid 30's by well-known Savage engineer Gerald Finch. Finch first came up with the idea when he noticed the effects strong magnetic floor sweepers had on the machine shop floor cuttings. The thought was that a heavily magnetized barrel would add significant stabilization to projectiles charged with an opposing magnetic force. While research and development funding was outright refused by Savage, Finch continued on his own in secret, while still using company equipment and resources. After several months of work, a single prototype was produced, as well as accompanying projectiles. The rifle was mounted with an early Lyman scope, and testing began. At targets as close as 50 yards, the results were less than satisfactory, and showed no significant improvement over standard rounds and rifles. Once the targets were moved progressively to 300 yards, the rifle, and ammunition started to shine. Groups were approaching one inch. A great improvement over the standard rifle and ammunition's 4 and 5 inch efforts. There was only one issue. Finch's range was perfectly orientated along the axis of the magnetic north and magnetic south poles. This fact would remain unknown to Finch for the remainder of his life. When Finch, exasperated by Savages lack of interest, brought forth the new rifle to management, a demonstration was arranged. The rifle and ammunition failed dismally. A frustrated Finch begged for another opportunity, but once management found out that Finch had spent a significant amount of unauthorized time, money, and resources on the project, he was terminated on the spot, the rifle, and ammunition confiscated. Finch could not understand what went wrong, he returned to the range. Not finding any issues, he, and his idea faded into obscurity. It was not until some 50 years later that the research was re-discovered. Another Savage engineer, Albert Conrad, had a hunch. Taking a compass to the Savage test range, he found it ran East to West. Following a further hunch, and a visit to Finch's former property, now turned bowling alley, the discovery was made about Finch's north to south orientation. Records also show that Savage sold the rifle as a plain model 99 to try to recover some of the costs. This rifle would be considered to be highly collectible, and near priceless if recovered.”


R.

I don't know whether to believe this, or congratulate you on such a well-fabricated story! it sounds plausible, but my spidey senses are tingling that it may be shenanigans.

 

[horseman2]

About 30 years ago an idea was floated that by running grain prior to seeding through the field of two magnets the grain was polarized and in the seeding process aligned magnetically. Increased yields of 10-15 percent were claimed. The 6 inch model sold for $400.00 and the 4 inch model at $200.00. The local cleaning mill was charged with selling off the remaining stock following bankruptcy proceedings. For $1.00 the new owner possessed boxes of these devices, and made himself a pick up for errant steel using the deck of an old lawn mower.

 

[H4831]

I don't know whether to believe this, or congratulate you on such a well-fabricated story! it sounds plausible, but my spidey senses are tingling that it may be shenanigans.

My alarm bells just blew their fuse!

 

[rookie wildcat]

Here's a theory, no more than that... I have put a magnet to several brands of European bullets that are apparently made with steel jackets, not gilding metal. Norma, RWS, S&B, among others. If one was to shoot steel jacketed ammo out of a steel barrel, would it be any different than rubbing a steel bar against another and therefore magnetizing it? I have made temporary magnets using the "rubbing" method, why wouldn't shooting steel jacketed bullets do the same? Just a random thought.

That theory would mean that all of our SKS's should be magnetic. I run hundreds of steel jacket, steel core bullets torough mine. Guess I'd better check the barrels...

 

[woodlotowner]

Well, actually, don't buy stock in this one just yet.

The three ferromagnetic metals in the periodic table are Iron (Fe), Nickel (Ni), and Cobalt (Co). These metals are both attracted to a magnet and can themselves be magnetized. We won't go into the non-magnetic metals (paramagnetics) at this time, but recall from high school physics class that these metals can be temporarily made into magnets by being placed in a magnetic field.

If the OP has been shooting magnetized mil surp FMJ rounds through the 99, and these steel core bullets were demonstrating a significant amount of magnetism at the time of use, then, theoretically, the barrel could well be magnetized by the simple action of the magnetized rounds 'rubbing' along the length of the bore. I have no idea what effect the copper 'insulation' jacket may have in this scenario, but I suspect it would not prevent the aforementioned 'transfer' of magnetism. How would a case of mil surp ammo get uber magnetized? No frigging idea.

Magnetism (in layman's terms) is nothing more than the alignment (or organization) of metal molecules in the mass of the metal so that all the 'positives' point in one direction and all the 'negatives' point in the other. Smacking a magnet sharply with a hard object will cause a certain amount of re-randomization of the metal molecules, thereby reducing or removing the metal's magnetism.

So, if this whole magnetism thing is really irking you, just take the thing out into the garage, make sure it is not loaded, and smack the bejeezus out of it with a 10 pound sledge. Repeat as necessary.

In the meantime, I would bet the farm that a magnetized barrel would have no effect on the performance or accuracy of the rifle. Not in this universe anyway. Then again, considering that light, as all things with mass, is affected by gravity, for long shots of say, oh, 300,000 kilometers or more, you may wish to consider using the .270 WSM in stead.

The end.

 

[IMagius]

“The Savage 99 Hybrid Rail Gun was first developed in the mid 30's by well-known Savage engineer Gerald Finch. Finch first came up with the idea when he noticed the effects strong magnetic floor sweepers had on the machine shop floor cuttings. The thought was that a heavily magnetized barrel would add significant stabilization to projectiles charged with an opposing magnetic force. While research and development funding was outright refused by Savage, Finch continued on his own in secret, while still using company equipment and resources. After several months of work, a single prototype was produced, as well as accompanying projectiles. The rifle was mounted with an early Lyman scope, and testing began. At targets as close as 50 yards, the results were less than satisfactory, and showed no significant improvement over standard rounds and rifles. Once the targets were moved progressively to 300 yards, the rifle, and ammunition started to shine. Groups were approaching one inch. A great improvement over the standard rifle and ammunition's 4 and 5 inch efforts. There was only one issue. Finch's range was perfectly orientated along the axis of the magnetic north and magnetic south poles. This fact would remain unknown to Finch for the remainder of his life. When Finch, exasperated by Savages lack of interest, brought forth the new rifle to management, a demonstration was arranged. The rifle and ammunition failed dismally. A frustrated Finch begged for another opportunity, but once management found out that Finch had spent a significant amount of unauthorized time, money, and resources on the project, he was terminated on the spot, the rifle, and ammunition confiscated. Finch could not understand what went wrong, he returned to the range. Not finding any issues, he, and his idea faded into obscurity. It was not until some 50 years later that the research was re-discovered. Another Savage engineer, Albert Conrad, had a hunch. Taking a compass to the Savage test range, he found it ran East to West. Following a further hunch, and a visit to Finch's former property, now turned bowling alley, the discovery was made about Finch's north to south orientation. Records also show that Savage sold the rifle as a plain model 99 to try to recover some of the costs. This rifle would be considered to be highly collectible, and near priceless if recovered.”


R.

That piece of "history" deserves an award of some sort

 

[Rman]

I don't know whether to believe this, or congratulate you on such a well-fabricated story! it sounds plausible, but my spidey senses are tingling that it may be shenanigans.

It's kind of suprising what can run out of the tips of a fellers fingers onto a keyboard and screen after a few pints!
Hope no harm was caused, and it was enjoyed by all who read it.
Most often, if a source of information isn't cited, then there wasn't one in the first place.

R.

 

[Bluffton Bill]

It's kind of suprising what can run out of the tips of a fellers fingers onto a keyboard and screen after a few pints!
Hope no harm was caused, and it was enjoyed by all who read it.
Most often, if a source of information isn't cited, then there wasn't one in the first place.

R.

You might have a future in writing science fiction. Isaac Asimov move on over for Rman.........

Entertaining. Kinda like the Hinterland Who's Who short on the "House Hippo". You even had a smattering of conspiracy theory.

Well done.