Savage Accutrigger

[Hitzy]

Most of the heavy lawyer triggers were fully adjustable...just set heavy out of the box. Old Winchester M70 triggers are fantastic and incredibly easy to adjust. Even the pre-accutrigger 10/12 etc were heavy but literally identical to the rifle basix with set screws for creep/overtravel and way better then the accutrigger once tuned. Same trigger on the basic Axis now sans d&t for the sear set screw, still d&t for the overtravel and you can add it easily with a trip to a hardware store.
The accutrigger was the answer for people who are not mechanically inclined, a marketing ploy.... it's a worse trigger then what it replaced.
Original Savage Trigger

 

[prairie lover]

Interesting. I haven't heard of this problem before. Is yours a regular accutrigger, or the target version? I dont think mine goes anywhere near 2lbs (more like 3.5-4 if I was to guess) but mines on a 22 so its probably different than the centerfire ones...

I have the varmint models. They go to 1.5 pounds. And the bigger bolt handle probably does not help the problem. It's a large chunk of steel coming down fast and the end result is the sear slips. And you have to record and close gentler

 

[madashell]

The Accutrigger came out at a time when most factory triggers were absolutely horrible; heavy, creepy, rough and nearly unshootable. The A-trigger was a big improvement, but of course people don't comment on how much better it was than the triggers it replaced. Rather, they complain about how much worse it was than the aftermarket triggers that they spent a couple or a few hundred dollars on. Totally unfair comparison. It is a factory trigger, and it was a fair step ahead of its competition.

I'm not in love with most Accutriggers as they come on new guns (although the red-bladed target version is outstanding), but I honestly can't see why some people have all these issues with it. I've consciously tried to get a few A-triggers to produce some of these problems, without success. How bad does your trigger technique need to be to prevent you from simply squeezing the trigger straight back?

Can't say I disagree with any of that jjohnwm.

 

[jjohnwm]

Hitzy, I agree with you...but most gunowners aren't "gun nutz", they're just guys who own guns. That's probably true to a greater degree with things like Savages, Mossbergs, etc...more of a budget brand of gun. The guy who buys a gun to keep by the door or in the truck to whack the occasional yote doesn't want to pay for a finely-designed trigger mechanism that allows multiple adjustments...he wants to load the gun and shoot it and kill stuff. Combine a customer base like that with a company lawyer who only wants to minimize liability, add an office full of bean-counters who scrutinize every penny spent in the manufacturing process, and it becomes difficult to design a gun that makes everybody happy.

I don't deny that the OEM triggers can be better, once adjusted properly. But a lot of buyers don't want to adjust their triggers, and a lot of gunmakers discourage the practice unless performed by a professional. So out of the box, the Accutrigger is better for a lot of people. Jeez...gunmakers don't even want you to shoot reloaded ammunition. They sure as hell aren't going to encourage you monkeying around with the internals of your rifle. Once the Accutrigger, which was promoted as easily user-adjustable, hit the scene, other makers were forced to follow suit.

OEM triggers can in many cases be adjusted too low for safety...the Accutrigger keeps the lawyers happy by preventing that from occurring.

 

[Hitzy]

Hitzy, I agree with you...but most gunowners aren't "gun nutz", they're just guys who own guns. That's probably true to a greater degree with things like Savages, Mossbergs, etc...more of a budget brand of gun. The guy who buys a gun to keep by the door or in the truck to whack the occasional yote doesn't want to pay for a finely-designed trigger mechanism that allows multiple adjustments...he wants to load the gun and shoot it and kill stuff. Combine a customer base like that with a company lawyer who only wants to minimize liability, add an office full of bean-counters who scrutinize every penny spent in the manufacturing process, and it becomes difficult to design a gun that makes everybody happy.

I don't deny that the OEM triggers can be better, once adjusted properly. But a lot of buyers don't want to adjust their triggers, and a lot of gunmakers discourage the practice unless performed by a professional. So out of the box, the Accutrigger is better for a lot of people. Jeez...gunmakers don't even want you to shoot reloaded ammunition. They sure as hell aren't going to encourage you monkeying around with the internals of your rifle. Once the Accutrigger, which was promoted as easily user-adjustable, hit the scene, other makers were forced to follow suit.

OEM triggers can in many cases be adjusted too low for safety...the Accutrigger keeps the lawyers happy by preventing that from occurring.

I get a laugh out of the companies that sell reloading components but tell you it voids the warranty...
Have you looked at warranties from the regular companies these days? That's another sad state of affairs.
Winchester and Ruger have no warranty at all. Savage gives you a whole 1 year, Tikka I think is 2, Remington has recently gone to lifetime for original owner though, so that might shake things up...