Savage Elite Precision 110 .223 - owner's blog

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I just bought this rifle and I figure I'll try making a blog of one owner's experience.

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Note the 20MOA marked pic rail, I don't think any websites mention what incline the base has. I think 20MOA is a pretty good choice, though 30MOA would be better.

A little background. I normally shoot IPSC and 3gun, and to a lesser extent rimfire precison rifle. I have spent a fair amount of time dabbling in PPC pistol and the shotgun clay target sports. But this year's competition schedule is all ruined by a combination of Canada and Covid-19 so I'm left looking for ways to have fun with guns that is different than my normal schedule. I signed up for a SAPRL match coming up in about 5 weeks.

I really like the ACC chassis, I have one on my T1x for rimfire precision shooting.

I received the gun new from a CGN vendor yesterday, as well as the scope and rings.

I put a Athlon Ares BTR Gen2 4.5-27x50 APRS5 FFP IR MIL scope on it and the rings are Vortex Pro Series Ring 30mm High (1.26"). The scope is clearing the barrel by a little more than I intended, causing me to run the cheek riser at almost its maximum height (#9 on the markings). I mounted it as far forward as I could go, and put the buttstock at minimum length because I like having the back ends of my rifles as short as possible and I find the front-back balance often prefers that. I might end up moving the scope back a centimetre or so because the eye relief might be a bit too much, we'll see once I shoot in prone and in a few positions.

My intention is to run the 80gr ELDM bullet in range floor brass, specifically the lighter ones (< 93.5 grains). So it is a mixture of head stamps and number of times fired. It is processed in a progressive press, trimmed, chamfered, and charged by a Chargemaster. So I'm not using high end precision brass. I also have some 75gr Hornady bthp and 69gr SMK bullets. I have Varget and H4895 for powder to choose from.

Placing a few test loaded rounds with the 80gr into the gun and checking freebore, my 2.390" round doesn't hit lands, while my 2.540" round does. I was using 2.390" for my Ruger Precison Rifle so I'll start with that, and in fact start with my RPR ammo for break in and zeroing and baseline gathering.

While setting it up I figured I should clean it barrel, clean any storage grease, oil it, set the trigger, and re-mount in chassis with torque set to a value I know. I did those things and made some observations.

The parts of a rifle that show wear from shooting, are showing what I think is more than a normal amount of wear for a new gun. I imagine they test fire these a bit, but it either wore very fast, or it was shot an awful lot. Wear on the boltface, wear on the feedramp:

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Running patches through on a jag with Hoppes 9, I ended up running 11 patches, twice per patch, and they were still coming out dirty to my eye. Though I'm not a barrel cleaning expert so I might be misinterpreting the data or using bad technique.

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I was able to get the trigger down to what my plastic fish scale-type trigger gauge says is about 1.2 lb. I tweaked it slightly higher as it felt pretty light, but the gauge still showed that same 1.2 lb. I don't think it is very accurate, especially at these light weights. It shows my minimum-adjusted T1x trigger as about 1.3 lb.

So all in all, not great first impressions. Not sure I received a new gun. Not loving the machining quality, and the caliber and vendor markings on the barrel look like someone used a hot knife to do artwork on wood. Some of the letters are not resolvable. But personally I care most about how it shoots.

First range session I'll get it zeroed on paper at shorter distances, and move out to hopefully get some groups with my RPR's 80gr ELDM ammo at 300m as well as check pressure and speed with the Labradar.
 
I've had the .308 Elite Precision for almost a month now . There was zero wear on the feed ramp or bolt . In fact , I found it to be quite gritty . Now that I have about 100 rounds through it , it is very smooth . The more I shoot it , the better it's getting . The engraving on the barrel is flawless . Barrel was not unusually dirty either . So, your experience with your new rifle surprises me .
 
Weather turned out to be great today, about a 5-7 kph wind as almost straight headwind for the bullet. Never mind the 8C temperature that necessitated fingerless gloves, long underwear, two long sleeve shirts under a jacket, and a touque. I shot the gun at 100m, 200m, and 300m.

First, all the shooting was a bit uncomfortable as the scope was way too far forward. I had to really stretch my neck and hang my cheekbone off the front of the cheek riser to get an almost-full view in the scope. Another excuse I have is on the 300m group, the sun came out briefly and I was shooting through substantial mirage.

I started with my reloaded AR ammo featuring 55gr Cam Pro FMJ bullets with a ball powder. I've never seen this bullet shoot a tight group in any of the four guns I've tried. The first three shots were remarkably tight. I cleaned, shot three more, this time they were all over the target, like a 4" spread. I cleaned again, shot four, probably 4" spread, cleaned. I wanted to do a break in procedure like I hear about on the internet. Normally I don't, but I wanted to try it.

Then I brought out the 80gr ELDM ammo and Labradar and put away the cleaning supplies.

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I'm very happy with those groups. I'm currently thinking I shouldn't even bother with load development and just stick with this load. I know the SD numbers are mediocre but I don't know that I can do better with the almost-random brass and Chargemaster throws.

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I thought my RPR had a particularly bad tendency to blow primers way before max pressure. There are threads on that on the internet, and I went as far as to grind down the tip of the pin so it protrudes less. But this confirms the load is indeed fairly hot, these primers are all blown back into firing pin hole quite a bit, not far from piercing. I don't think I can gain speed by pushing the pressure higher.

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Some more data for my future reference:
- The magazine holds 10.
- The magazine has a max OAL of about 2.540". I didn't try loading 10 into it at this length but there's not much room in front of the top round at this length.
- I have 14 mil up available on my turret after the 100m zero. Strelok Pro says that'll take me to about 1125m, with the round going transonic at about 950m.
- Headspace gauge on the spent casings shows a pretty standard headspace in the rifle of 1.454" measurement. For reference, this is very similar to my other 223 guns. So nothing to be gained by loading at a longer-than-spec headspace I don't think.
- I ended up moving the scope back 2".
 
My borescope is crap. It doesn't fit down a .224 barrel, and it seems to be focused too far away for use in a gun barrel. These are the best I could come up with. The second two are from the muzzle end.

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I would suggest trying Varget with the 80 grain projectiles . I think H4895 is just a bit too fast . I have a Savage LRPV .223 , 7 twist ,26" , right bolt left port , single shot . I am getting 2975fps with with the 80 Berger VLD and just under 2950fps with the Berger 85.5 long range hybrid . 24.6 gr Varget with the 80's and 24.4 gr with the 85.5 . No pressure issues at all . 2950 fps with the 85.5 hybrids puts it squarely into "good" 6.5CM territory at distance .
 
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Groups are fantastic, nothing wrong with that bore. Be interesting to see if it gets even tighter once the barrel is broken in.
 
I would suggest trying Varget with the 80 grain projectiles . I think H4895 is just a bit too fast . I have a Savage LRPV .223 , 7 twist ,26" , right bolt left port , single shot . I am getting 2975fps with with the 80 Berger VLD and just under 2950fps with the Berger 85.5 long range hybrid . 24.6 gr Varget with the 80's and 24.4 gr with the 85.5 . No pressure issues at all . 2950 fps with the 85.5 hybrids puts it squarely into "good" 6.5CM territory at distance .

Interesting. I could try. What OAL are you at and how compressed are they?
 
2.370 COAL is touching the lands with the Berger 80VLD . 24.6 grains of Varget in Starline brass is just lightly compressed . It's a very good load in my 7 twist .223 and down range performance is impressive . My .308 won't touch it . I've tested this load from -25C to +25C and there have been zero issues . .352 moa at 200 yards on my last test ( 5 shots quick off a cheap bipod ) . 710 yards is the max distance at my range and shooting at a 7" x 9" plate is super easy . Not even a challenge . 10 hits in a row . It seems to be at about 1/2 MOA at that distance . Worth a try in your rifle .
 
Well then.... what’s the point of using a 308 then eh? Less noise. Less recoil. Slightly cheaper to reload. Atleast for target shooting then I don’t see why a 308 would be better when your getting THAT kinda performance with a 223. I have 2 custom 223 builds. An impact precision with 7.5” twist hawk hill barrel 24” long done by insitearms. Also have a bighorn tl3 223 with a 24” mtu benchmark barrel. Have yet to reload for them. I need to try them out yet and see what I can do with them. Hoping for close to that velocity that your getting out of a 26” barrel! I hope anyway. With 75 eldms
 
I shoot the .308 simply for interest sake . The fast twist .223 with the 85.5 Berger Hybrids at 2950fps has much better ballistic performance in addition to other advantages . But , I don't compete anymore and I'm not trying to emulate any of the PRS stuff that seems to be everywhere . I just shoot to have fun and learn . I can only shoot out to 710 yards and the .223 and .308 do this easily .
 
Can’t wait to receive my Savage 110 Elite tomorrow!
Got it in .308 since it’s going to be my new Petawawa NSCC rifle.

Scope rail coming right off and installing an ATRS 20 moa steel rail like I do on every savage.
If trigger doesn’t break under 2 1/4lbs I’ll put my rifle basix in.
Other than that, Razor gen 2, ARC M10 medium rings, and test my true and tested 308 low node recipe.
My expectations are high with this one, hope it doesn’t disappoint!

I won’t tweak extraction like I usually do right off the start.
Let’s see how quick it can feed/eject without touching a thing, see if Savage got their game right with this one...
Which is intended for the PRS production division market.
 
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