savage grouping like crap... tips?

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Hi all.

I know a savage axis grouping like crap is no news to anyone. But this year my brother lent me his axis in 7mm which he doesnt yse now hes into bow hunting. Ive used a .303 brit for years but i fear the barrel is on its last legs cause the groupings are starting to resemble half a foot at 100 yards despite regular cleaning and copper treatments.
Anyways. This savage will not group any tighter than maybe 4 to 5 inches at 100 yards with the odd zinger out to left field. And im positive its not me pulling the shot. Ive tried scrubbing the crap out of the barrel and solventing the inside to remove any copper. But im at my wits end and need this thing to perform for moose season this year. I have a .243 for back up incase it doesnt help but id rather have some punch cause ill be hunting in fairly heavy grizzly territory.

Any suggestions on cleaning or tips to tighten it up?
7mm or .303 would be appreciated
 
Optics or mount problems, if you can demonstrate better accuracy with other rifles. Not being mean, often inaccurate rifles are about the shooter. Try different ammo too.
 
Ill try remounting the scope and checking the rings. Ive tried 3 or 4 different types of ammo but theres not a hell of alot of selection were i live.
 
Go over to savageshooters dot com, lots of good info there. First suspect might be the flimsy forestock and barrel channel not being freefloat. Rigidizing the forestock and sanding out the barrel channel to ensure freefloat is a common suggestion. This is particularly pertinent since you are using a bipod.

A scope and its mount is always a suspect item also, as is trying different ammo, as posted earlier.
 
Check the action screws are torqued properly. Remove entire scope assembly, remount with proper torque, try again.
 
"scrubbing the crap out of the barrel" doesn't sound too good to me....all of my savages tend to shoot better with a dirty barrel, although 5" at 100 is pretty extreme, I'd check scope and mounting first, swap a scope if you can to test the gun...also check out the crown for any blemishes

how did the gun group for your brother?
 
What type of ammo are you using? Try some different types/brands of ammo and see how it goes. I know of a few people who have had problems with 7mm in different rifles.

One rifle did not like to shoot anything that had a boat tail and was getting worse groups than you described. Once he tried some normal flat backed bullets the groups shrunk right down to the expected size.

In a different rifle it was bullet weight, he kept trying to shoot heavy for caliber bullet weights and couldn't understand why the gun wouldn't shoot. Tried different scopes, mounts, brands, everything. Once he stepped down bullet weights all problems seemed to disappear.
 
DVS_182 said:
Hi all.

I know a savage axis grouping like crap is no news to anyone. But this year my brother lent me his axis in 7mm which he doesnt yse now hes into bow hunting. Ive used a .303 brit for years but i fear the barrel is on its last legs cause the groupings are starting to resemble half a foot at 100 yards despite regular cleaning and copper treatments.
Anyways. This savage will not group any tighter than maybe 4 to 5 inches at 100 yards with the odd zinger out to left field. And im positive its not me pulling the shot. Ive tried scrubbing the crap out of the barrel and solventing the inside to remove any copper. But im at my wits end and need this thing to perform for moose season this year. I have a .243 for back up incase it doesnt help but id rather have some punch cause ill be hunting in fairly heavy grizzly territory.

Any suggestions on cleaning or tips to tighten it up?
7mm or .303 would be appreciated
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A 7mm-08 right? Have you tried the Winchester 140 gr Ballistic Silvertips?

That is the 100 yard target evaluation ammo used for that caliber in the Axis model.
 
I have had the same problem with a bushnell trophy. The scope was pooched. I took it back and was told that there was no warranty and that the reason the scope failed is because i shot it too much. That was the last time i ever bought a bushnell.

1. Take off turret caps, and look through your scope.
2. While looking through your scope wiggle the turrets around.

It should be rock solid with no play. If the turret or your crosshair moves at all your scope is garbage, but i knew your scope is garbage since the begining.
 
Thanks for the responses. Ive found a couple answers on savageshooters.com for stock reinforcement. Will double check the scope mount and scope. Will try swaping out the scope off my ol 303 and see if the results are the same. As well as try and order some ammo off the web.
 
I wouldn’t think too much about shooting groups with that rifle. Not what it’s designed to do. Carry it all day and take 1 or 2 shots if you’re lucky. All the system needs to do is deliver 1 shot on target from a cold barrel. Your first shot is the only one that matters. Also, test the way you hunt. If you shoot off a bipod, stick or improvised rest (like a pack) then that’s the way you test.
 
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