Savage-Lee enfield? In 303
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maple_leaf_eh
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So many questions left unanswered. Type of sights, old scope base drill holes, condition and cut-ness of forestock, bore conditions, with or without magazine, serial number on bolt matches receiver, barrel not cut down, number of metal parts missing from original condition, etc, etc?
FWIW, a Savage in Canada is less desireable than a Long Branch. Vice versa in the US of A.
FWIW, a Savage in Canada is less desireable than a Long Branch. Vice versa in the US of A.
Peep sights yes, no scope base drill holes, forestock is mint not a scratch, bore is in excellent condition, comes with magizine, numbers on bolt matches the receiver, barrel is original & no missing parts. Widow of gun owner said firearm was stored for safe keeping when bought for $18 back in the day. Gun looks like it's never been shot at all.
You mean the barrel actually is stamped "Savage-Lee enfield"?
This is what an all correct 1943 No.4 Mk1* Enfield Rifle (Mfg under Lend Lease Act by Savage in 1943) - 82 pic photo montagehttp://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=179-1943-No.4-Mk1*-Enfield-Rifle-(Mfg-by-Savage) should look like.
Regards,
Doug
BADGER pointed out something that I noticed in the OPs first post. The Barrel is marked "Savage-Lee Enfield?" In 55 years of gun collecting, I have never seen one marked "Savage-Lee Enfield" that was originally made that way, unless someone has done it later. That does not mean that such a barrel exists, but rather, "Was it original that way from the Factory?"
Savage made Number 4 Lee Enfields can readily be identified by the Square S on the receiver, the "U.S. Government Property" and the serial number and ordinance acceptance mark.
We need pictures of the actual rifle, overall and close up, especially any markings on the Barrel and Receiver. Descriptions are only an opinion of one person, and what is "Excellent" to one is "Good" to another.
In actual Gun Collecting, there can be two identical rifles, made by the same factory, in the same shape, but one can be worth $300 and the other worth $1000 due to a set of markings, association with a Historical person or Regiment, Organization, or other factors. Without good pictures, giving an opinion as to the worth of a rifle is almost useless.
The serial number on a Savage Lee Enfield can also help, as to when it was made. Savage Serial numbers are a combination of numbers and the letter "C" in combination. For example 12C1234, with numbers being before the "C" and numbers being after the "C". If you can give us the FIRST PART of the serial number, before and including the "C", that will help. It can be in the form if we use the example above 12C###x.
Lets have some pictures, because without them, anything else is speculation.
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Savage made Number 4 Lee Enfields can readily be identified by the Square S on the receiver, the "U.S. Government Property" and the serial number and ordinance acceptance mark.
We need pictures of the actual rifle, overall and close up, especially any markings on the Barrel and Receiver. Descriptions are only an opinion of one person, and what is "Excellent" to one is "Good" to another.
In actual Gun Collecting, there can be two identical rifles, made by the same factory, in the same shape, but one can be worth $300 and the other worth $1000 due to a set of markings, association with a Historical person or Regiment, Organization, or other factors. Without good pictures, giving an opinion as to the worth of a rifle is almost useless.
The serial number on a Savage Lee Enfield can also help, as to when it was made. Savage Serial numbers are a combination of numbers and the letter "C" in combination. For example 12C1234, with numbers being before the "C" and numbers being after the "C". If you can give us the FIRST PART of the serial number, before and including the "C", that will help. It can be in the form if we use the example above 12C###x.
Lets have some pictures, because without them, anything else is speculation.
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Winchester-1897
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I thinking about five hundred if all matching. Mine is in very good condition and everything matches even the sling and mag. It has a #2 bolt head which if you are buying the one you mention ask the seller what # the bolt head is. That might not say much as I have bought ones with #1 and they were actually gauged out to a #2.
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$500 would have to be in really excellent condition, (as you seem to be describing)
as condition decreases so does price, avg non bubba matching No4 goes for $400-$450
as condition decreases so does price, avg non bubba matching No4 goes for $400-$450
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Winchester-1897
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I found that odd also.
$700 perhapsto the right buyer (or sucker)
Well I have been offered 1,000 for my Long Branch, just making the point a Savage isn't worth 500 unless IKE carried it himself.
Winchester-1897
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Stop that I was just going to put mine up for $1,050.
Never it was left to me by a friend and shoots like a dream.The difference between a picture and a description when evaluating a rifle!
Looks like those $500 to $1000 quotes might be a smidgeon on the high side.
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Savage Stevens Chicopee Falls, Mass, No. 4 Mk. 1*. They made over a million of them. The 'C' indicates Chicopee Falls, like an 'L' would indicate Long Branch on an LB LE, a 'T' would indicate Toronto on an Inglis Browning, a 'W' Windsor on a Border City Industries M-1919A4 machine gun, etc.
Thank's for the info their TCBF
. So what is the value of the one i purchesed? Not that i plan on selling it LOL. It's a keeper & the action is silky smooth like my Sako TRG's , the triger could use some work though.
