Savage MarkII FVT

I own one as a low-cost training rifle for my Model 10FP (accutrigger). The synthetic stock is crappy, and has quite a drop from comb to heel, that might make holds awkward for little shooters. I'm going to throw a cheek piece on mine. The barrel is great (nice rifling, heavy weight, target crown), the action is great (super trigger), and the Williams sights are OK. I was spoiled by Anshutz for many years...

Here's my problem. I cannot physically depress the rear sight enough to bring it to zero at 25m. I would have to purchase the tall front dovetail mount, and then I'd be topping out the rear sight. I've been told that Savage designed and zeroed these rifles for 100. I don't know if I buy that.

I slapped mounts and a Rifleman 2-7x, and a little bipod. I can consistently hit a 10" circle at 200yd with Rem subsonic on a calm day. This rifle is accurate.

But the stock sucks.
 
I'll put money on too much barrel pressure in the stock. As far as I'm concerned there should be zero. Not sure why Savage builds those stocks so the barrel is cinched against it like that. The tighter you make the front action screw the more you push the barrel against the stock. Take it apart and throw a washer or two on the front action screw between the stock and the pillar, until the barrel is no longer touching that barrel channel cutout. This moved my POI down by more than 2.5" out at 50 yards, and made the iron sights more useful.

edit - if you take the screws out and leave the action sitting in the stock you can rock it back and forth to see where the pivot point is. What you will likely notice, since they're probably all the same, is that it is pivoting up in front of the forward action screw in that barrel channel cutout, because it is making contact there. Then, put a washer under the front pillar and see if it is still pivoting in the channel, or if it is now pivoting on that washer. If it is still pivoting on the channel then throw another washer in. You want just enough height to clear that barrel channel once the screw is tightened up. That'll stop the barrel from being bent upwards, and make the iron sights adjustable for closer ranges. I noticed the same problem you did, couldn't adjust them down far enough for a 30m fun match at the local range. Started poking around the gun and noticed this barrel being bent upwards nonsense once I had the action screws out, and noticed the point at which the action was pivoting back and forth.
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Here's my problem. I cannot physically depress the rear sight enough to bring it to zero at 25m. I would have to purchase the tall front dovetail mount, and then I'd be topping out the rear sight. I've been told that Savage designed and zeroed these rifles for 100. I don't know if I buy that.
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+1 for the "washer bedding" technique. Also usefull on CZ452 std and Lux models.

The gun is a tad light, perfect for smaller/younger shooters that can't handle a older Brno, or a sporting rifle.

Our club is also using the new Cadet thumbhole rifle.
 
Good suggestion - never thought it would have an effect with such a robust barrel. I'll give it a try and let you know.
 
I know, I was VERY surprised to see the point of impact had changed that much. I think the bigger concern, though, is the fact that it's got all that tension in that location. There's potential for movement and changes in the stress put on the barrel after each shot, thus also potential for each it to be impossible for each shot to be under the same conditions as the last. If it moves a little in that channel and the forces from that pressure change in how they're affecting the barrel, etc, then it's going to change how each shot behaves and change your POI. And I'm quite confident this is exactly why my groups improved after I got it off that channel.
 
can someone who owns one tell me if they are drilled and tapped for scope mounts as well. thought about getting one also but not really interested if they are not d and t for weaver bases. I just want to have both sight options on a heavy barrel and at our range in the winter we shoot open sites indoors and the summer it is outdoors and optics and accessories are allowed.
 
From memory, the Cubt and the FVT are are dovetailed on the front and back for the peep sites. They aren't tapped and don't have a groove for tip-off rings. like the remainder of the Mark II line.

Been a couple of weeks since I handled one last.
 
My FVT was drilled and tapped from the factory. Weaver 2-pc bases are fairly easy to come across, and having optics and iron sights make it a more versatile rifle.

I had a chance to experiment with bedding and adding washers this weekend. A washer on the front pillar did change the POI by about 2.25", but there was no increase in accuracy (still a 2.5" group at 100yd). Then, I backed the bedding screws right off - the upper was basically just "sitting" in the stock, and she printed 0.75" at 100yd!! All shots with Rem subsonic. I'm going to try it again to ensure it wasn't a fluke, but there's definitely a vibration or stock/barrel contact issue at play here. A W Tech co-worker suggests using synthetic washers on top of the metal ones (front and rear) and "just-tight" torque with loc-tite to deaden those nasty vibes and lift the action to free-float the barrel.

Stay tuned...
 
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okay here's the dirt, any after market stock for a savage 93 will fit the mark II fvt. You may have to get a trigger gaurd for a model 40 however. I just recieved my mark II fvt today and spent a couple hours with a dremel fitting it to my mark II BV laminated stock and it is looking sweet. Thinking about heading to the range for a quick box of fifty before we lose daylight. Should have pictures up later tonight.
 
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