Savage Mk II .22 Extraction problems

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Has anyone out there in CGN land had difficulty with a Savage .22LR not extracting? I have a relatively new BVTS that has seen less than 1000 rounds. I have been experimenting with different ammo for accuracy, and found it has been sporadically failing to extract spent cases. Anyone else experienced this? It doesn't seem to matter what ammo it is. I haven't been using any hypervelocity stuff, mostly Winchester cheap box, Blaser bulk box, Remington bulk box, Winchester target, Federal bulk box, CCI subsonic and HP stuff. I have cleaned it extremely well, but still have this happening. Any pointers?
 
Did you clean the breech face, extractor claws and the extractor "groove" on the bolt? After 1,000 rounds, powder residue could've built up in these areas and prevent the extractor claws from catching a good grip on the cartridge rim.

This happened to my MKIIF soon as I got it (bought used with perhaps a couple of bricks through it, similar to your round count) and that's all the cleaning I did at the range. Failure to extract has not recurred in many hundreds of rounds.
 
It happened to my new BTVLSS last weekend but only twice and with Federal Gold Match Target ammo. I then tried about 200 rounds of 4 other brands and it didn't happen once. Didn't understand why it occured... I've only put maybe 400 rounds thru it.
 
I've got about 400 rounds through my BSEV but haven't had any problems yet. I always keep every part of mine VERY clean and it functions flawlessly. Lets hope its just a little build up and not hardware issues.
 
I have run into it occasionally. It is not totally uncommon. Here is a saved procedure I have used to solve it.

Savage Rimfire Extraction Issues

Failure to extract most often is caused by one or both of these causes:

The extractor plate noses fit into two recesses machined into the barrel face. Grunge builds up in these recesses and keep the extractor plates from closing tight around the rim of the case. Clean the grunge out. An aerosol automotive throttle body cleaner works well.

The extractor plates are held in the bolt by a C shaped spring. Either grunge or a weak spring will prevent the plates from squeezing tight to the bolt to grip the case rim. Remove the C spring taking careful note of the location of the two extractor plates, and the notch in the C spring. The sharp pointed extractor is on the eject port side, and the rounded one on the opposite side. The notch in the C spring is away from the bolt face side, and allows the plates to slide further toward the bolt face. Clean the slots for the extractor plates with a throttle body cleaner. Stone the sides of the extractor plates to ensure they are flat and have no burred edges, and clean them too with the same cleaner. No lube is required other than the residual from the cleaner. While you are at it, do the same for the firing pin (plate). Next scrunch the C spring together to give it maximum tension. When you reassemble you want to minimize the amount you stretch the C spring. Put the firing pin in first, then the C spring, stretching it as little as possible. Last slide the extractor plates in from the end of the bolt under the spring one at a time. As a last check shake the bolt from end to end to ensure the firing pin is free. It should rattle back and forth.

If that does not work, you may want to call Savage. Some have even installed two C springs to get the extra tension to keep the extractors tight. But, the above procedure is all I've needed to put the gun back in perfect form again.
 
i've put almost 4000 rounds down my mark II TRR and had no issues other then ones i likely caused but putting once shot cases. (to practice on the trigger)

the above makes alot of sense.
 
clean it really good and then only use copper washed ammo in it. the lead seems to build up dirt to quick. i've put a few thousand rounds through mine with no issues and no cleaning using teh winchester 333 packs. I was using the straight lead stuff but like i said it got dirty too quick and i had the same issue as you after 50-100 rounds. It seemed like i had to constantly clean it.
 
I have run into it occasionally. It is not totally uncommon. Here is a saved procedure I have used to solve it.

Savage Rimfire Extraction Issues

Failure to extract most often is caused by one or both of these causes:

The extractor plate noses fit into two recesses machined into the barrel face. Grunge builds up in these recesses and keep the extractor plates from closing tight around the rim of the case. Clean the grunge out. An aerosol automotive throttle body cleaner works well.

The extractor plates are held in the bolt by a C shaped spring. Either grunge or a weak spring will prevent the plates from squeezing tight to the bolt to grip the case rim. Remove the C spring taking careful note of the location of the two extractor plates, and the notch in the C spring. The sharp pointed extractor is on the eject port side, and the rounded one on the opposite side. The notch in the C spring is away from the bolt face side, and allows the plates to slide further toward the bolt face. Clean the slots for the extractor plates with a throttle body cleaner. Stone the sides of the extractor plates to ensure they are flat and have no burred edges, and clean them too with the same cleaner. No lube is required other than the residual from the cleaner. While you are at it, do the same for the firing pin (plate). Next scrunch the C spring together to give it maximum tension. When you reassemble you want to minimize the amount you stretch the C spring. Put the firing pin in first, then the C spring, stretching it as little as possible. Last slide the extractor plates in from the end of the bolt under the spring one at a time. As a last check shake the bolt from end to end to ensure the firing pin is free. It should rattle back and forth.

If that does not work, you may want to call Savage. Some have even installed two C springs to get the extra tension to keep the extractors tight. But, the above procedure is all I've needed to put the gun back in perfect form again.

The stretched C clip/spring was the same problem I had. Easy fix, I just pinched it together to make it tighter and reinstalled it carefully.
 
accidentally dry fired mine a couple times. But found that my mk2BVT really likes remington yellowjackets and always extracts them. I think it just did not like the dynapoints I was using.
 
accidentally dry fired mine a couple times. But found that my mk2BVT really likes remington yellowjackets and always extracts them. I think it just did not like the dynapoints I was using.

I've probably shot close to 2000 rounds of Dynapoints without an issue in my BTVS. Suspect your gun needs a bit of cleaning, and/or the spring tightened. Also it deserves better than Yellowjackets. I recall they are the least accurate round of 25 or so different brands that I tried.
 
I likely have a particularl poor example of a rifle. Mine won't go more than 200 rounds before I have to clean the chamber and barrel to eliminate the problem. It's a pain in the ass to say the least. The suggestions contained here in this thread may eleviate the problem - hopefully entriely.
 
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