Savage MK II Bottom Plate in Canada?

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I've just in the process of restocking my Savage with a Boyd's stock. And of course I had to buy a new magazine plate from Savage. And yes, it is pretty flimsy!
Is there a Canadian source for a thicker version of this part? Neither DIP nor Savagegunsmithing seem interested in Canadian customers.

I have asked a local metal shop for the cost of making me one from 1/8" mild steel, and the quote is $45, unfinished. I'd still have to polish and paint or blue it. Thankfully the finish on the rifle is matt black, so a good exhaust paint will probably suffice.

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Funny this should come up, I just got the bottom metal set from Savage and was thinking the same thing. I am going to use some 16ga mild steel plate and form it on my own. Material that thin is easily worked with hand tools if you have them available. Another alternative is to find a laser cutting shop locally and have them cut a new plate to match the old one.

EDIT - I just called a local laser cutting shop that I have dealt with before. They have a minimum charge of $75 for a laser cutting order. If I get a quote for cutting new mag well plates out of 14ga (0.075" thick) mild steel, how many would be interested in one? On my Boyds stock the mag well plate inlet is about 0.076" deep, so 14ga would be a near perfect flush fit. I will see how many plates that $75 will get cut and post it here.


Mark
 
And if mine does not turn out, so would I.
It does seem a pretty simple job to make one. I'm in a situation where I don't have tools, so am feeling pretty helpless.
Good luck on this.
When I see situations like this I start to think that it would be a good excuse to set up a small CNC shop for low-volume and custom work. I'd go broke, of course.

Oh yes..
I wonder if the charge for the laser cutting is dependent on the number of pieces, the cutting path length, the job time or what.. Cutting several pieces at a time might bring the unit cost down.
 
tranman said:
Id be in for one if they were 1/8" like DIP or savage gunsmithing.
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1/8" would stick out well beyond the wood on my Boyds stock. Got any pics of what you are thinking of?


analemma said:
Oh yes..
I wonder if the charge for the laser cutting is dependent on the number of pieces, the cutting path length, the job time or what.. Cutting several pieces at a time might bring the unit cost down.
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It would depend on how many heads the machine can run at once. Cost is dependent on machine time, thicker materials require slower cutting speeds, so they cost more for any particular job.


Mark
 
Headover to rimfirecentral, a heavier plate actually helps the thin wood problem by spreading out the forces from the action screws so the wood doesnt compress as much, reducing chances of cracking. The stock thin metal just bends under pressure and creates a point of high pressure which can damage the wood.
 
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I'd be in for one... depending on price, of course.

You guys who are wanting/needing a 1/8" thick plate do realize that 14ga is only .05" (50 thousandths of an inch) thinner than 1/8th right?
I'm thinking that's not going to make a difference.
 
Splatter said:
I'd be in for one... depending on price, of course.

You guys who are wanting/needing a 1/8" thick plate do realize that 14ga is only .05" (50 thousandths of an inch) thinner than 1/8th right?
I'm thinking that's not going to make a difference.
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No, not really. I have never connected gauge measure with inches. Dumb, eh?
I think the 1/8" focus comes from the DIP product spec. Certainly that was what I was going by.
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spenom said:
order 2 from savage and double them up. Twice as stiff. :)
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analemma said:
I don't think it works that way unless you were to spot-weld or bond the two layers.
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No, spenom is right, it is twice as stiff because the two plates are loose and not bonded. Stiffness goes as the cube of the thickness and bending strength goes as the square of the thickness. So, a new plate that is twice as thick as the original will be 8 times as stiff and 4 times as strong in bending.

The original measured around 0.030" thick with the coating on it, so it is very flimsy. The 14ga (0.075") will be over 6 times as strong and 9 times as stiff, assuming the material is the same. The Savage plate will hold a magnet, so it is definitely some type of rolled plate steel, the same as I am getting a price on.


Splatter said:
I'd be in for one... depending on price, of course.

You guys who are wanting/needing a 1/8" thick plate do realize that 14ga is only .05" (50 thousandths of an inch) thinner than 1/8th right?
I'm thinking that's not going to make a difference.
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I asked for prices for 14ga (0.075") and 12ga (0.105"). I will post the answers when I get them.


Mark
 
Savage gunsmithing started making these before D.I.P using 1/8" h ttp://www.savagegunsmithing.com/rimfire_rifles.html
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DIP's can be seen here h ttp://www.diproductsinc.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3602
 
I recieved one from Savage gunsmithing last week, good quality. Contacted by e mail and was shipped within a couple of days. Under $50 including shipping.
 
Got mine in from DIP, fits nice, does stick out being 1/8".

Only thing i'm not to fond of is it looks like he counterbores the screw holes with a rasp file.... maybe it's like a lock washer lol.

Will work and look good though.
 
Ryan500 said:
Got mine in from DIP, fits nice, does stick out being 1/8".

Only thing i'm not to fond of is it looks like he counterbores the screw holes with a rasp file.... maybe it's like a lock washer lol.

Will work and look good though.
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So...
How did you manage to buy from them?
 
A guy I met had a few, one was spare so I bought it. Not sure where they came from but it says DIP on it.

If someone built a few up here I'm sure they would sell fast.
 
aawilson said:
How do the stock screws work out? I am trying to order one for a Mk 2 G, would I need longer screws for the thicker metal?
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You need to order screws as well. If you call Savage and tell them what you are doing they will know the parts you need.

Thanks for the bump, I had forgotten about this and I haven't heard back from the laser cutting place. I better call them and shake them up.


Mark
 
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