Has anyone shot the new Savage Long Range Precision Varminter yet? Is it any better than the regular Mod 12 Varminters? Bigger bbl will take more heat and should give a bit better accuracy, but there's nothing wrong with the regular Mod 12's. It looks like it should hammer gophers all day long with only a few cooling breaks in between.
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Savage Mod 12 LRPV
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Johnn Peterson
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A short while ago I purchased a Savage 112BVSS in .25-06 and put a Leupold VX-III, 6.5-20 with Varmint reticle on it. Long story short, it shoots like a dream. With one of my first reloads, I shot a three shot group under 1/2", witnessed.
I read an article in, I think it was Rifle Magazine, anyway it was written by Claire Reese and it was about the new Savage. Now Clair stated the he had favoured the model 12BVSS for upwards of 10+ years and after testing this new Savage rifle, he replaced his precious BVSS with this model.
I have to say after reading about this rifle I really got to liking it. Clair mentioned that it was exceptionally accurate for an out of the box rifle even for Savage who has been know for this type of thing.
The only thing I don't like and have nerver liked is synthetic stocks but I guess thats minor considering how well this thing shoots.
I have to say after reading about this rifle I really got to liking it. Clair mentioned that it was exceptionally accurate for an out of the box rifle even for Savage who has been know for this type of thing.
The only thing I don't like and have nerver liked is synthetic stocks but I guess thats minor considering how well this thing shoots.
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Johnn Peterson
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Johnn Peterson said:
I neglected to mention, I shot that group at our local range, @ 185 yds. shoot44, if you're interested, send me your e-mail address and I'll send you a scan I did of the target with the reload info attached. I added a penny to the scan for a size comparison. Just to make sure it wasn't a fluke, I've shot a couple of other targets, very compareable but not quite as good. Oh, the center to center measurement of that group is 0.486".
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This particular rifle uses a HS precision stock but the aluminum bedding block stops at the recoil lug.
Rifle is ideal for shooting off of a bench due to the right bolt - left port configuration.
Rifle is ideal for shooting off of a bench due to the right bolt - left port configuration.
Wholesale sports has them for $939.00. I know what you're talking about Johnn. I was just up to the Rock Creek Benchrest Turkey shoot and a fellow had a .308 Mod 12 varmint gun and shot a one hole 3shot grp @100yds with scope @ 9x. It was pretty impressive for an out of the crate gun.
Mystic Precision
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The RB with Left Port is handy ONLY when shooting off a bench from pedestal rests. From prone, right handed shooters will find the standard right port easier. You don't need to switch your balance from side to side to load.
As far as performance, I expect typical Savage - no better no worse. The stock is certainly better then the typical tuperware but even that plastic stock can be made to work just fine. Personally, I don't think the forend is wide enough even on the HS stock for comfy RBLP useage (rifle is likely to roll too much).
With a slicked up bolt and a proper stock, I am sure many actions will be used in benchrest rifles. Although with the MSRP being so high, some will just opt for a full out custom and not have to do any tuning (arguably a better product too).
Savage is doing a commendable job of looking at the cutting edge of aftermarket and competitive shooting and trying to make appropriate products. Their F class rifles and this varminter are case in point.
However, like many large corporation, most decisions are made by committee that seem to be heading in opposing directions. Some on these committees may not even use the products they are cooking up. The concept is good. The execution not so good.
Just have a look at the stock designs on these F class rifles. I think we have found the committee that designed the camel.
By contrast, the barreled action has the right stuff. Savage really needs to learn how to design stocks.
Jerry
As far as performance, I expect typical Savage - no better no worse. The stock is certainly better then the typical tuperware but even that plastic stock can be made to work just fine. Personally, I don't think the forend is wide enough even on the HS stock for comfy RBLP useage (rifle is likely to roll too much).
With a slicked up bolt and a proper stock, I am sure many actions will be used in benchrest rifles. Although with the MSRP being so high, some will just opt for a full out custom and not have to do any tuning (arguably a better product too).
Savage is doing a commendable job of looking at the cutting edge of aftermarket and competitive shooting and trying to make appropriate products. Their F class rifles and this varminter are case in point.
However, like many large corporation, most decisions are made by committee that seem to be heading in opposing directions. Some on these committees may not even use the products they are cooking up. The concept is good. The execution not so good.
Just have a look at the stock designs on these F class rifles. I think we have found the committee that designed the camel.
By contrast, the barreled action has the right stuff. Savage really needs to learn how to design stocks.
Jerry
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I should also mention this action utilizes a larger diameter barrel tenon which these days is considered a plus.
The stock is typical varmint design which utilizes a wider forend.
TPS is making us custom bases specifically for this action. If anyone is interested, please PM me.
The stock is typical varmint design which utilizes a wider forend.
TPS is making us custom bases specifically for this action. If anyone is interested, please PM me.
I actually found 2 more articles in various rifle magazines that I had lying around and I think this rifle is a keeper. I am not a fan of synthetic stocks but I think that this rifle in .223 would be my first centerfire rifle purchase.
In the 3 articles I read about this rifle, I have yet to hear a bad thing. Incrediable accuracy has been the consensus among 3 different writers.
In the 3 articles I read about this rifle, I have yet to hear a bad thing. Incrediable accuracy has been the consensus among 3 different writers.
6mm Shooter
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"This particular rifle uses a HS precision stock but the aluminum bedding block stops at the recoil lug."
Joe, you better look again. The two I have both have aluminum all the way up to the front sling stud.
Joe, you better look again. The two I have both have aluminum all the way up to the front sling stud.
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Well I can tell you have not cut any of them apart, but I can tell you that Savage Arms told me that the block did NOT extend into the forend as on standard HS Precision stocks. If this is true it would resemble the earlier version of HS Precision stocks.
I suppose a person could drill (several locations along the forend) into the barrel channel to see if the block extends full length. It is also possible that they installed an insert into the forend to prevent stud pull out.
I would hope you are correct but from what Savage said, they are without continuous al. support.
Well I can tell you have not cut any of them apart, but I can tell you that Savage Arms told me that the block did NOT extend into the forend as on standard HS Precision stocks. If this is true it would resemble the earlier version of HS Precision stocks.
I suppose a person could drill (several locations along the forend) into the barrel channel to see if the block extends full length. It is also possible that they installed an insert into the forend to prevent stud pull out.
I would hope you are correct but from what Savage said, they are without continuous al. support.
Savage or Rem
I have never seen a used savage action for sale anywhere or Looking to buy one.
try and buy a Rem 700 action for under $500 if you can find one, lots of WTB
Rem 700 action, I think this says it all
I have never seen a used savage action for sale anywhere or Looking to buy one.
try and buy a Rem 700 action for under $500 if you can find one, lots of WTB
Rem 700 action, I think this says it all
6mm Shooter
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- White City, SK
Joe I will drill a hole tonight. The forend feels just as stiff as my PSS and Sendero stoks from HS.
Manitou210, there is a savage action for sale on the exchange. Have a look it might be what your looking for.
Manitou210, there is a savage action for sale on the exchange. Have a look it might be what your looking for.
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- Petawawa, Ontario
shoot44 said:
I was at the Rock Creek Turkey shoot with my Savage 12 FVSS .243 and took a turkey home with this 3 shot group at 100 yards. I admit it was mostly luck but those out of the box Savage's can really shoot. I have also attached a photo shot at the local range under windy conditions with the same load.
Johnn Peterson
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- Chemainus B.C.
Nice shooting guy, very nice. Gotta' agree with you bushpilotmexico, the Savages do shoot. The 112BVSS .25-06 I have has more than met my expectations, and I've just started testing reloads. Not used to that kind of accuracy, that soon, especially out of a relatively inexpensive gun.
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- Petawawa, Ontario
I forgot to mention that I am shooting the 87 grain Hornady V-max. I'm hunting coyotes locally and was using my .204 with the 32 grain V-max bullets.
The .204 is a great fur saver and flat shooting out to 300 yards but lacks the long range punch. At longer ranges you have to place your shot exactly. In that calibre it's an amazing bullet....it enters thru a 20 calibre hole and never exits. It just blows up inside. Unfortunately at extreme ranges I was just wounding the odd one so I decided to switch to the .243. Man when that 87 grain V-max hits a yote it blows a hole the size of your fist when it exits. Definitely not a pelt saver.
The .204 is a great fur saver and flat shooting out to 300 yards but lacks the long range punch. At longer ranges you have to place your shot exactly. In that calibre it's an amazing bullet....it enters thru a 20 calibre hole and never exits. It just blows up inside. Unfortunately at extreme ranges I was just wounding the odd one so I decided to switch to the .243. Man when that 87 grain V-max hits a yote it blows a hole the size of your fist when it exits. Definitely not a pelt saver.
