Looking for a bolt action 22lr, that can accept a scope for shooting at 50 yds and less. I like the Savage and Ruger precision rifles. Are they “precision” in real life? Both cost about the same, have adjustable cheek and reach. My budget is no more than these, about $700ish. Any thoughts?
Savage or Ruger Precision Rifles?
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Why a precision rifle if your shooting under 50yds? I picked up my savage mk2 for 300 bucks on #######. I have only just started shooting, and the fact I can give my gun to anyone and have them hit a 3" target at 100yds without missing says worlds to me about that rifle.
What are you shooting at sub 50yds?
What are you shooting at sub 50yds?
I hope to shoot at longer distances in the future but need to improve my skills first. I am looking for a rifle that I can “grow” with. I have a Lakefield Mk2 from the late ‘70’s - it’s ok , but I’m wondering if these rifles would be better.
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Get a cz457 or cz455 or if you want to blow your $700 and a bit more get a tikka - they outshoot most other guns - I have five Cz rifles and they all shoot 1 moa with good ammo at 50 yards. - the tikka is a bit better - I also have a heavy barrel savage- I guess I got a lemon but the best it will do is FIVE inches at 50 yards - with some brands its 18 inches - sort of a spray and pray - beautiful laminated stock and spiral fluted stainless barrel but I wish it could shoot a little? better - I know everyone else seems to get accurate ones but I would not take the chance
I have the savage b22 precision and I love it. Trigger adjusts down to 1.5 pounds out of the box. Metal chassis is nice. The rifle is more accurate than I am. Left the mags loaded for a day or 2 and now they are super easy to load.
I had the ruger precision rimfire. It was a good shooter. (Sold it to a friend to get a custom build) i liked it. Set up ready to go without extra stuff. The mags are better then the savage. I have a savage mk2 that shot a bit better then the ruger but.. the savage has more problems to massage and tinker with to make work well. The ruger, no problems at all. The ruger is more comfortable to shoot. I don't think you can go wrong with either and looking forward to what you get. P.S. I got my ruger for 575$ new.
That's awesome precision at 100 yards. I'll bet you can also hit a 1" target at 50 no problem.
These are the targets we used. A 3" and a 2.25". The 2.25" would fall over every 2nd shot, and the 3" would stay up longer. It spent more time sideways as a narrow target then a full size lol. Was roughly 113yds from our shooting line. Had the same luck with the semi auto remmy 597 (or close to it).
I shot some precision rimfire matches indoors over the winter...some of the targets were a quarter inch at 25yd.
I've owned 4 Savage MKII's in heavy barrels. One blue and the others stainless. In my experience you don't get much more accurate without paying a lot more for it.
Two weeks ago I was shooting in near perfect conditions and got between 3/8" and 1/2" with CCI at 50 yards. With my tired eyes I was pretty happy.
Two weeks ago I was shooting in near perfect conditions and got between 3/8" and 1/2" with CCI at 50 yards. With my tired eyes I was pretty happy.
I got the Ruger Precision Rimfire too and I've been very happy about it. The RPRR has been out for a lot longer than the Savage B22 Precision... which means a lot more people have been guinea pigs for the Ruger. Things like aluminum foil tape bedding have already been figured out. There's probably a few more things to be figured out with the Savage over the next year or so before it becomes optimal.
Other thing is as people said.. is the ammo. Can go from 0.5" groups to 2" groups at 50 yards, depending on the ammo.
Other thing is as people said.. is the ammo. Can go from 0.5" groups to 2" groups at 50 yards, depending on the ammo.
You really can't go wrong with either one. One other thing that I forgot to bring up is that the Ruger is currently stuck in its chassis and does not have a different chassis to switch to. I know, it sounds silly to buy a fully adjustable chassis and then be like "hey, why don't I go get a new one", but people do and down the road, you might want to. I believe the Savage B22 Precision is still a Savage B22 at the end of the day, and therefore probably has options of an MDT chassis, making it more flexible.
If I had unlimited money, I'd be picking up a Vudoo. Otherwise, it'd be the Bergara B14 Trainer (also nice to be able to drop that into a different chassis) or a CZ 457 MTR. Within your budget, you won't find much difference between the rifles. It might just boil down to what's available in your area and instock or which rifle got a 10% off sale. At the end of the day, get one and go out there and shoot it.
Tough call.
I had a pair of RPR22s for about 12 months using them in our local NRL22-type shooting practice and matches. Both had major extraction, ejection, feeding, and magazine retention issues. How Ruger managed to release a new bolt action 22lr rifle in 2018 that has all these problems is quite the mystery, it's only a 150 year old concept. They had 150 years of guns to copy ideas from. That said, it is still by far the best form factor (adjustable LOP and cheek height/position, pistol grip, AR safety, free floated Mlok handguard, flush 10round magazine) for a 22lr until you spend like $1900* on a T1x or 457 in a MDT ACC chassis, which I ended up doing after selling both Rugers. Of the 8 or so RPR22 we had in our club, I would say about half had major problems with reliability, the other half are happy with reliability. Accuracy wise, consistent 0.4-0.5 mil 10shot groups at 100m with Eley Club, which happens to be the same as the aforementioned T1x in ACC chassis. I even threw a aftermarket barrel in one of the RPRs, only to find exactly the same size groups, so I sold the aftermarket barrel.
When I saw the B22 Precision I was quite excited, as it looked to have most of the benefits of the RPR22 and should be reliable. However the one example in our club this year is having huge problems with ejection, leaving about 1/3 of the cases on top of the magazine facing backwards. So far warranty has been non-existent and non-responsive. Apparently this is a common issue, I've seen other posts about it on CGN.
* Edit: I should add that the $1300 457 LRP from Tesro looks to have most of this functionality, but still way above your budget.
I had a pair of RPR22s for about 12 months using them in our local NRL22-type shooting practice and matches. Both had major extraction, ejection, feeding, and magazine retention issues. How Ruger managed to release a new bolt action 22lr rifle in 2018 that has all these problems is quite the mystery, it's only a 150 year old concept. They had 150 years of guns to copy ideas from. That said, it is still by far the best form factor (adjustable LOP and cheek height/position, pistol grip, AR safety, free floated Mlok handguard, flush 10round magazine) for a 22lr until you spend like $1900* on a T1x or 457 in a MDT ACC chassis, which I ended up doing after selling both Rugers. Of the 8 or so RPR22 we had in our club, I would say about half had major problems with reliability, the other half are happy with reliability. Accuracy wise, consistent 0.4-0.5 mil 10shot groups at 100m with Eley Club, which happens to be the same as the aforementioned T1x in ACC chassis. I even threw a aftermarket barrel in one of the RPRs, only to find exactly the same size groups, so I sold the aftermarket barrel.
When I saw the B22 Precision I was quite excited, as it looked to have most of the benefits of the RPR22 and should be reliable. However the one example in our club this year is having huge problems with ejection, leaving about 1/3 of the cases on top of the magazine facing backwards. So far warranty has been non-existent and non-responsive. Apparently this is a common issue, I've seen other posts about it on CGN.
* Edit: I should add that the $1300 457 LRP from Tesro looks to have most of this functionality, but still way above your budget.
The savage b22 I have I had minor extraction issues which has been solved by doubling up the spring on the bolt. Savage sends the spring and extractors out for free, and they give some spares too. If the issue does come up again I at least have the parts. I don't regret my purchase, I love shooting the rifle.
Interesting comments. You have remained me of a problem that I have sometimes with my Lakefield Mk11 - not ejecting the spent casings! Kind of spoils the moment having to tip the rifle sideways to clear (or risk jamming).
I was interested in these 2 rifles because of the adjustability, and favoured the Savage because of the trigger. Now I’m concerned about the ejection possibility.
Lots of love for the CZ’s, and my budget would cover them and the Tikka! Maybe I should reconsider my choices?
