Savage rimire discussion.

[synik]

Since savage came out with their new line of A and B rim fires I have wanted to know why they were introduced as I thought the mk II and the 93 were doing them well. Also are the new models any better and why? Share your knowledge and experience with savage rim fires. Your mods and what works for you.

 

[.22LRGUY]

I'm no expert on Savages (or much else ) ....but my guess is that Savage had been riding the Mark II/93 a little longer than necessary, and it was time for a fresh design. I've had a few 93s, and 1 x Mark II and while I'm tempted to say they aren't as accurate as CZs, the truth is...I never shot my Mark II with anything but garden-variety 22 SV. I do allot more experimenting these days.

Could also be that the black, plastic stock on the entry-level guns might have been the biggest POS stock ever put on a rimfire. And that's coming from a guy who had a couple of them. My Mark II was an FV-SR, definitely not an accurate rifle compared to the CZ/Anschutz it shared space with in the safe...but man, I really loved shooting that gun. I never fully grasped why (chamber?) but Savages always seemed to easy to cycle, not sure if that was extra slop or what...but it sure made for a pleasant shooting experience anyway. When I got rid of my second last Savage rimfire, I swore I wouldn't bother with Savage 22s again but honestly...the B22s really interest me. Savage seemed to move away from their ugly polished/bluing jobs and towards a satin finish in recent years, it's had me reconsider them a number of times. Then the B22 came out with better stock geometry, a modern look, nicer bolt etc...and well, a new Savage might be on the list. I know they added a 17M2 to their semi line (I imagine it'll have collector value one day) but I'd honestly buy a new production, heavy barrel 17M2 if they came out with one patterned after the B22. Granted, the only guy I ever knew with a Savage 17M2 had real issues with it, and could barely give it away.

So, are the B-series better? They're "supposed" to be, and I may try one just so that I can scratch the itch. I (personally) wouldn't need one in 22, but might consider one in 22WMR. That caliber demands that you lower your accuracy expectations as it is, so a B series Savage might be a good fit. I wouldn't use 22WMR enough to justify a CZ or Anschutz.

 

[gandalfe]

I have an A series and think it has some improvements.The magazine is better and fits more securely and also fits butler creek 25 rnd mags.The magazines on the 93 series are junky; are loose fitted; and often don't hold the correct count.My A22 is accurate with a heavy blow-back type action.It feels good to shoot and is easy to take apart to clean in a few minutes.

 

[wmd]

I have a A22 and a A17. The are both very accurate and are easy to clean. Also 25 round mags are always fun.

 

[awesomealvin]

I got a B22. It was great for the first 2-3000 rounds. After that it just started to FTE, and FTF. In some ways, that gun trained me to be a ghetto gunsmith. Yes it was cheap, but it took a lot of tinkering to get it running smoothly beyond 2-3000 rounds.

 

[brucecorporal]

I have a couple mark 2's in M2 and had a 22 fvsr and then a B22 Fvsr. The new one has a nicer stock but they are all accurate. The new rotary mags are a huge improvement also.

This was the B22 at 50m laying in a field at the farm

 

[buji88]

I think they just wanted to expand the line up mostly. The Mark II and 93/93R17 are a bit dated but still super relevant rifles. They even added the new minimalist rifles on the Mark II action and man that looks the like the best option for a bolt hunting rifle or just a fun light weight plinker.

The B22 has a better magazine design IMO since is a flush 10 mount opposed to the stick style magazine of the MKII. But right now my MK II FV is a hammer in my Oryx, its almost cheating.

 

[Suther]

I am no expert, but this is my understanding of this:

It all started with the A17. The A17 is a delayed blowback gun, specifically designed around the 17HMR round.

The A22 is the 22lr version of this gun, which came out later. There is no delayed blowback in the A22 as far as I am aware.

From there, they brought out the B22, which to me appears to just be an updated version of the Mk II, with a different safety, different stock, different bolt handle, and the ability to use the same magazines as the A22.

 

[synik]

Interesting posts so far. I have used the mk II heavy barrel. Accuracy was ok. Mags work but could be improved. I found the accutrigger could use more adjustability but probably good value gun for the money.