Savage target action timing and truing

[r204]

So I am wondering if it worth the extra expence to have a Savage target action timed and trued? I plan to use the action for 100 to 300 yrd bench rest and prob chambered in 30BR. Has anyone out there had this work done? Did you notice a differance? Who did the work for you and what was the cost?
Thanks

 

[Barnard308]

I dont think youd notice any improvement at 300 yards. I went through this with my gun smith a few years ago after buying a 10FCP and while he was bedding the action I asked him about this. He said with the free floating head of the Savage bolts there was no real need to do it. Bedding however is a must IMO.

 

[r204]

I thought that timing the bolt was suppose to help with the bolt lift.

 

[Qball-16]

I thought that timing the bolt was suppose to help with the bolt lift.

The bolt lift on my 12 FTR was quite stiff when it was new(ish), but has lightened considerably over time with use. It's still heavier than my previous Rem 700, but not so much that it really bothers or concerns me any more. I might install a longer/lighter carbon fibre bolt handle:
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[Leeper]

Careful measurement of the bolt and receiver would tell whether or not any remedial work needs to be done or if it might be beneficial. Generally speaking, if the gunsmith can't measure it, he can't true it. The savage receiver can benefit from the same techniques as used on any other receiver but I would be reluctant to do much cutting on the already-over-large thread. The bolt presents some challenges including the floating bolt head (which often doen't float ay all), the mid-body cocking cam, and the separate extraction cam. Make changes to an action only if there is a measurable need for it. I would like to have someone explain the process involved in the "timing" of a Savage bolt. Keep it simple, I'm not that bright.

 

[Mystic Precision]

Bolt timing will make bolt lift much easier and lighter to use. that can be helpful so you do not disturb the rifle in the bags are much. PM or email if you want it done.

I haven't bothered to touch the many Savage actions I use in competition and they work just fine. I have no idea how the new ones are made but I have yet to see an older repeater or single shot action benefit from truing per se.

If your fired case has no runout and is square to the thrust line (case head square to the bullet), what is there to improve on?????

Jerry

 

[r204]

PM sent

Bolt timing will make bolt lift much easier and lighter to use. that can be helpful so you do not disturb the rifle in the bags are much. PM or email if you want it done.

I haven't bothered to touch the many Savage actions I use in competition and they work just fine. I have no idea how the new ones are made but I have yet to see an older repeater or single shot action benefit from truing per se.

If your fired case has no runout and is square to the thrust line (case head square to the bullet), what is there to improve on?????

Jerry

 

[jonh172]

'Timing' the bolt means to reduce the amount of rotational force induced on the firing pin by an over compressed spring. It also reduces the amount a firing pin has to travel which decreases your lock time.

Proper timing increases accuracy and also lightens bolt lift. Polishing the caming/ramp surfaces the cocking piece pin rides on also reduces bolt lift, so lots of benefits to timing .

A Nat Lambeth bolt lift kit drastically reduces bolt lift to 'pinky' lift weight.

 

[rl4930]

The bolt lift on my 12 FTR was quite stiff when it was new(ish), but has lightened considerably over time with use. It's still heavier than my previous Rem 700, but not so much that it really bothers or concerns me any more. I might install a longer/lighter carbon fibre bolt handle:
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I didn't have very good luck with the carbon fibre bolt handle. The treads strip very easy over time. I'd check out ones south of the border(glades armoury) or insite arms