I think I am finally going to pull the trigger on a AR type rifle. I think I have it narrowed down to a S&W M&P 15. Would this be a good choice? I like the looks of this carbine, and they are close to $1000 cheaper than a Colt Canada SA20. I would like to hear some opinions from shooters that own these guns.
School Me on the AR Style Rifle
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This is my opinion
You really can't go wrong I would avoid nea and Norinco just becouse now days there are better choices for not much more $
Look at dd,stag,Windham these would be at the top of my budget if I were too buy another AR right now and based on your post I'd say this should be a good starting point for you.
You really can't go wrong I would avoid nea and Norinco just becouse now days there are better choices for not much more $
Look at dd,stag,Windham these would be at the top of my budget if I were too buy another AR right now and based on your post I'd say this should be a good starting point for you.
I have done a fair bit of research, but I also wanted opinions from owners.
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What sort of shooting are you planning on?
Just run of the mill paper punching for now.
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that's about all we can do in Canada with an AR short of 3-gun
... lots of options though for target shooting I think is where he was going with it. You can have a lot of fun with a 8" AR with no optics at 50m, or you can enjoy the precision of 300-600m where a 8" barrel won't help you very much. The truth is that until you get to premium brands, which you'll pay for, most ARs are very much the same. Many use the same forgings and the same parts... the only difference being finishes and a design you like. I'd go with a basic model... there are many (I like going Canadian... Dlask has a nice one), and build it the way you want to from the ground up. It's a big part of the fun is learning how... and its truly not that hard with tons of info available online on how. You can even ask on here... there's only a few old pr*cks... we're mostly really helpful and happy to share our experience. Glad to potentially have you aboard. Its like Lego's for the Discerning Individual Get the Norc AR15 from Marstar, get the extractor upgrade kit from Brownells, get the Vortex Sparc II. Then laught at your friend with his $2k Colt Canada C8 when you outshoot him because you spent that $1k difference in 2500rds of ammo to practice.
Pretty much. My nork was as reliable and accurate as my Daniel Defence. Just didn't have the looks.
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I have owned a couple of the mentioned rifles,
Bang for your buck id go for the Windham, I still have mine, and i dont think ill ever sell it. The fit and finish is great, and it shoots as good as guns worth a lot more.
I would look into them if i was you.
Bang for your buck id go for the Windham, I still have mine, and i dont think ill ever sell it. The fit and finish is great, and it shoots as good as guns worth a lot more.
I would look into them if i was you.
My friend, if you like the looks of the rifle then it's going to put a smile on your face shooting her. If you really enjoy the AR, you're going to upgrade and by then you'll know for yourself what exactly you want. S&W is a great starter
Steel plates, paper punching, 3 gun, CBQ and tactical schools are great for a 14" carbine gas system barrel in 5.56 caliber. The MP15 is a great choice along with other major manufactures such as Daniel Defence, Ruger and Colt just to name a few. Like any major purchase you get what you pay for.
The Sig guys where at the club today with a couple of Piston AR's that I really enjoyed. One model was equipped with the bi-metal folding stock and a piston 16.5" barrel that was impressive.
The Sig guys where at the club today with a couple of Piston AR's that I really enjoyed. One model was equipped with the bi-metal folding stock and a piston 16.5" barrel that was impressive.
My first AR was a Norinco CQ-A, I still have it.
By the time I installed a free floating handguard, low profile gas block, Magpul furniture, etc I was over $1,000 back in 2011.
I also spent quite a bit on tooling also.
Even though the Norinco shoots fine I think you will get a better long term value for your money out of a Stag, Daniel Defense, or Wyndham Weaponry.
What you must figure out first is the type of shooting you want to do to determine the barrel length first and the overalll style next.
A barrel shorter than 16" overall cannot be brought south of the border.
To the ATF a 14.5" barrel with a pinned and welded flash hider with an overall length longer than 16.0" is considered legal.
As for overall style do you want a carry handle and post style front sight with traditional handguard?
Do you want a free floating handguard with a continuous rail on top you can mount an optic and backup sights?
These days you can chooses a quad rail which is fatter and heavier or More modern styles styles such as Keymod or MLOC which are thinner and lighter.
Do you want a red dot aimpoint or EOtech or a magnified 1-4 or 4x16 scope?
I would speak to people you see at the range with AR's and ask if you can hold them, most people will offer you a chance to shoot them.
Best of luck and once you buy one you will never have enough of them.
By the time I installed a free floating handguard, low profile gas block, Magpul furniture, etc I was over $1,000 back in 2011.
I also spent quite a bit on tooling also.
Even though the Norinco shoots fine I think you will get a better long term value for your money out of a Stag, Daniel Defense, or Wyndham Weaponry.
What you must figure out first is the type of shooting you want to do to determine the barrel length first and the overalll style next.
A barrel shorter than 16" overall cannot be brought south of the border.
To the ATF a 14.5" barrel with a pinned and welded flash hider with an overall length longer than 16.0" is considered legal.
As for overall style do you want a carry handle and post style front sight with traditional handguard?
Do you want a free floating handguard with a continuous rail on top you can mount an optic and backup sights?
These days you can chooses a quad rail which is fatter and heavier or More modern styles styles such as Keymod or MLOC which are thinner and lighter.
Do you want a red dot aimpoint or EOtech or a magnified 1-4 or 4x16 scope?
I would speak to people you see at the range with AR's and ask if you can hold them, most people will offer you a chance to shoot them.
Best of luck and once you buy one you will never have enough of them.
