Schultz and Larsen Target .22 rifles

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Hello. Some months ago I bought a S&L Model 61 - seems to be an all out .22 target "free rifle" - had read this model was used at World and Olympic levels around 1970, give or take, in the 50 meter competitions. I now have what I think might be a S&L Model 77 on the way - but not knowing for sure what it is.

So that leads to my question - any recommendations for a good reference site for the various target rifles built by Schultz and Larsen over the years??

For sure they started as world-class target barrel makers - were used by Scandanavian and British shooters, as near as I can tell. I believe Dad Larsen and Son Larsen competed in five or six Olympic Games between them - maybe mostly centerfire free rifle - but I am not sure. The very first Weatherby's were apparently built on Schultz and Larsen actions. I have a S&L Model 60 hunting rifle in 7x61 Sharpe and Hart - of the same "type" given to Phil Sharpe by S&L, although his serial number is much, much lower than my rifle's!!!

Any references or leads greatly appreciated!!

NOTE: edited to correct Model numbers, as per Post #3 below...
 
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You can find this list of S&L .22 rifles approximately 2/3 of the way down on billard85 blog spot

Here are the numbers in relation to the production (done consecutively numbered)
on the M24 Model 2200 rifles produced
on the M33 model rifles produced 11,000
on the M58 model 4296 rifles produced
on the M70 model 7434 rifles produced
on the M77 model 3063 rifles produced.
On the M88 some people put the figure at 28 rifles and other items 500. M88 produced would last number 28230 manufactured 14 December 1992.

M24 -> M33 changed bolt and new small changes on the stock
M33 -> M58 New front and rear sight (international standard).
M58 -> M70 New Stock (very different from earlier), new bolt with extractor in the right side, new inner parts of the bolt and a new trigger.
M70 -> M77 New trigger
M70 -> M88 New trigger and a new stock.

Not sure if this is accurate info or not.

Tradeex sold a lot of these a few years back. I still have one of them.
 
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It's been a while since I was trying to keep up with Schultz and Larsen small bore rifles. Bulriver has given good information.

Schultz and Larsen had been making rifles long before WWII, but most of the S&L rifles we see are post WWII models. Below is some basic information based on what I remember and have readily available.

The Model 70 and 77 were "club rifles" that were very common in shooting clubs, especially in Denmark. They were upgraded versions of earlier models that were very similar. These models had differences over the years especially in triggers but also relatively minor variations in front sights. They had very basic receiver aperture sights.

Below is an example of a Model 70. It's sights have been removed and the receiver D&T'd so that a scope could be mounted.



It has a relatively basic trigger.



The Model 77 was different only in its trigger.



The Model 88 was an attempt to "upgrade" the Models 70/77 with a new stock configuration. By this time (1988?) Schultz and Larsen had fallen far behind other European gun manufacturers in club-level rifles. I believe S&L closed their doors in the early 1990's.



The Free Rifles were used in Mens competitions across Europe. They had reputations for being good shooters, but in a few significant ways were a step behind the German rifles, such as Anschutz and Walther. Like the smaller club rifles, the Models 70 and 77, the Free Rifles did not have ejectors and the shooter had to flick out the empty casing with a finger.

The Models 38, 47, and 49 (I'm going from memory) were all very similar, with minor differences between them. They featured a double set trigger that has a very light pull weight in the low ounces. The barrel is long and very heavy.



Most had thumbhole stocks, but some were made without, such as this Model 49 below.



The trigger is shown below and was used on the Model 61 as well.



In the late 1950s or early '60s (I don't recall the date), the 47/49 was improved with a newer stock design. Below is a Model 61, which also didn't have an extractor. The front sight was off-set to the left so that it wasn't over the middle of the bore. I think this was so that its centerfire brother, the Model 62 which was built on the same platform, could be shot so that mirage from barrel heat was less of a distraction for the shooter (see the image from the brochure below).




The last small bore model that Schultz and Larsen made is, as I recall, the Model 71. Unlike other models, it featured dovetail grooves on the receiver. This would allow a shooter to use other rear aperture sights (and made mounting a scope easier). It was also made in a UIT Standard version with a shorter, slimmer barrel.




This rifle had a newer trigger design.

 
Thank you, grauhanen! As per your attachment, I clearly had the model numbers on the two rifles here mixed up! Clearly, my free-rifle .22 is the Model 61, and the centerfire rifle in 7x61 is the Model 60 - I have edited my initial post to correct that! A very minor point you may want to correct in your post - regarding the Model 61 - the one that I have here does have an extractor, but does not have an ejector... From that S&L brochure, it appears I am missing the sling swivel, hand stop and that version of palm rest that mounts beneath the fore-end. The version here does have the straight vertical adjustment on that hooked butt; I have seen pictures, like yours, with a radius shape that the hooked butt moves along.

And thanks to Bulriver for the information - I am working with a very slow Internet speed and did not go through that blog to see that information...
 
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Reviving to ask for help

What would you think a Model 70/77 in beautiful condition would be worth?
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These rifles had different triggers. The better trigger and nice wood should fetch a higher price than one with the basic trigger and everyday wood. The majority of these rifles that made it to Canada were club rifles that saw a good deal of use. Anyone thinking of buying one should be aware that this rifle has no ejector, which means that the empty casing must be removed manually by the shooter. In addition, unless the receiver is D&T'd by a later owner, there is no provision to use a scope or other sights. Shooters must use the basic rear aperture sight and front globe.
 
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These rifles had different triggers. The better trigger and nice wood should fetch a higher price than one with the basic trigger and everyday wood. The majority of these rifles that made it to Canada were club rifles that saw a good deal of use. Anyone thinking of buying one should be aware that this rifle has no ejector, which means that the empty casing must be removed manually by the shooter. In addition, unless the receiver is D&T'd by a later owner, there is no provision to use a scope or other sights. Shooters must use the basic rear aperture sight and front globe.
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Let's say a model 70 in good shape with nice wood.
 
Skimmer - In Nov. 2020 I bought one on CGN - as per price range in Post #7 and description in Post #9. Some would pay more. Some would pay less. There is no "price list" to refer to. Phrases like "good shape" and "nice wood" are actually not terribly technical - it is supposed to be a target rifle - Bore condition? Original barrel? Pull length? Original butt plate? Original sights? Extra sight inserts? Muzzle condition? Does it have sling swivels? Has a hand stop been installed? How does it shoot? Trigger pull weight? A buyer interested in that kind of rifle is likely going to want to know those things?
 
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I really need to shoot mine more often! Ton of fun and accurate with CCI SV....
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Potashminer said:
Skimmer - In Nov. 2020 I bought one on CGN - as per price range in Post #7 and description in Post #9. Some would pay more. Some would pay less. There is no "price list" to refer to. Phrases like "good shape" and "nice wood" are actually not terribly technical - it is supposed to be a target rifle - Bore condition? Original barrel? Pull length? Original butt plate? Original sights? Extra sight inserts? Muzzle condition? Does it have sling swivels? Has a hand stop been installed? How does it shoot? Trigger pull weight? A buyer interested in that kind of rifle is likely going to want to know those things?
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Thank you very much! I'm going to sell mine and that is very helpful information.
 
I grabbed a couple from Tradex (m77) that came with an adapter and adjustable diopters, makes getting a proper sight picture a little easier.
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Really nice rifle there. I'll get mine up on EE in the next day or two.
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Thanks. IIRC I paid $500 delivered.
I was happy to pay the $$ considering the mint/clean condition of this S&L. The wood was mark free and the blueing was deep and perfect.
The Seller took good care of this one......
 
Hey ben....yup still have it but need to shoot it more! Thanks again for taking such good care of her:)
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