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Tried searching the section to see if I could prevent starting another thread, seems like my search was out of luck.
Building up a service rifle from scratch during the winter to be ready for the spring.

Rifle portion is settled, with the help of Ryan @ IBI barrels, I ordered a nice 19'' service rifle barrel to go with my build that should work just fine.
The rest is just quality milspec stuff with a really light mlok freefloat rail.

Now for optic, I can spend a bit on a good optic, but cannot afford to spend twice.
As in if I make a bad choice or not an optimal choice, I will be stuck to bear with it for all of 2019 at least, as funds come and go in my line of work.

Was initially thinking of a Vortex Razor gen ll 1-6x24 in a cantilever 1.5'' height unimount (probably a spuhr or a nightforce, I like spuhr to make scope leveling a breeze).
Is there any positive and/or negative comments about this scope setup in this discipline?
 
I’ve been looking at AR builds too and the advice I got was actually for a mid-power variable with a 3-4x bottom end and a 12-15x top end. I had assumed a low-power variable like a 1-6x or 1-8x was going to be the way to go. I’m curious to follow the thread and see what is recommended.
 
I have not shot Service Rifle since I used the FNC1.

But I do shoot CQB, which is about as close and fast as you can get.

I have never used anything less than 3X. Some of my scopes are 2-7 and I like them. A 3-9 would suit me just fine.

Since you have to change elevations in SR, I would pay attention to the turret. I would want a tall target type turret. I would probably mark 1, 3 & 5 hundred yards on the turret with a little dab of paint, so I could quickly dial in the new elevation.
 
It is now too late so to speak,
Settled with Razor gen ll 1-6 in a spuhr unimount, both on their way, and hoping the will serve me well in this discipline
 
MartyK2500 said:
It is now too late so to speak,
Settled with Razor gen ll 1-6 in a spuhr unimount, both on their way, and hoping the will serve me well in this discipline
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I think you're going to be quite happy with your choice of scope. Just remember, the CF soldiers walk away with most prices during CFSAC/NSCC service conditions just shooting their C8A2's with 3.4X fixed Elcan scopes.
 
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I am still new to this,
From what i understand, there is a service division and an open division (for civilians with freestyle AR setups).
Are we competing for the same prizes?
 
MartyK2500 said:
I am still new to this,
From what i understand, there is a service division and an open division (for civilians with freestyle AR setups).
Are we competing for the same prizes?
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Canadian Forces Small Arms Concentration (CFSAC) is the CF competition, open to the armed forces only including foreign armed forces, as well as the RCMP. No civies allowed unfortunately. National Service Conditions Championship (NSCC) is held by the DCRA and is open to civilians, police and the military. Their program is very similar to the CFSAC except for automatic weapon matches. In the NSCC matches the military and RCMP have to use their issue weapons. Civilians can use whatever is legal to own in Canada and are also restricted to 5-round mags. It's interesting to note that the Canadian Rangers can compete in both CFSAC and NSCC with their bolt action No4's. AFAIK, there are no separate divisions for service conditions in the NSCC matches. Back in the C1A1 days and early C7 days, the matches were shot with the issue iron sights out to 500y but you won't find any competitors these days using their irons except the Canadian Rangers.
 
RifleDude said:
Canadian Forces Small Arms Concentration (CFSAC) is the CF competition, open to the armed forces only including foreign armed forces, as well as the RCMP. No civies allowed unfortunately. National Service Conditions Championship (NSCC) is held by the DCRA and is open to civilians, police and the military. Their program is very similar to the CFSAC except for automatic weapon matches. In the NSCC matches the military and RCMP have to use their issue weapons. Civilians can use whatever is legal to own in Canada and are also restricted to 5-round mags. It's interesting to note that the Canadian Rangers can compete in both CFSAC and NSCC with their bolt action No4's. AFAIK, there are no separate divisions for service conditions in the NSCC matches. Back in the C1A1 days and early C7 days, the matches were shot with the issue iron sights out to 500y but you won't find any competitors these days using their irons except the Canadian Rangers.
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Thank you for taking the time to clear this up for me.
I appreciate it.
The 5 round rule still stands with these LAR mags hanging around?
If it’s the case I’d just use magpul 5/30s for better real estate releasing the mags from pouches.
 
MartyK2500 said:
Thank you for taking the time to clear this up for me.
I appreciate it.
The 5 round rule still stands with these LAR mags hanging around?
If it’s the case I’d just use magpul 5/30s for better real estate releasing the mags from pouches.
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Yes, the matches allow only 5 rounds in the mags even for the military who use unrestricted 30 round mags. The idea is to do fast mag changes under stress conditions
 
Thanks again, while being on subject, would you mind talking about gear?

Would it be acceptable to run my 3gun belt with my bladetech IPSC style AR15 mag pouches?
Just asking as i'm gearing up during the winter, want to get to spring all ready to rock.
 
MartyK2500 said:
Thanks again, while being on subject, would you mind talking about gear?

Would it be acceptable to run my 3gun belt with my bladetech IPSC style AR15 mag pouches?
Just asking as i'm gearing up during the winter, want to get to spring all ready to rock.
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Civilian shooters can use whatever they have. If you're familiar with your IPSC setup, by all means use that. Just keep in mind that you'll be shooting from the prone, kneeling and standing positions. You'll need a minimum of 3 mags, one for the sighters and two for the match. Here's the NSCC rulebook if need more information:
http://www.dcra.ca/2016%20docs/2016%20NSCC%20Rulebook.pdf
 
RifleDude said:
Civilian shooters can use whatever they have. If you're familiar with your IPSC setup, by all means use that. Just keep in mind that you'll be shooting from the prone, kneeling and standing positions. You'll need a minimum of 3 mags, one for the sighters and two for the match. Here's the NSCC rulebook if need more information:
http://www.dcra.ca/2016%20docs/2016%20NSCC%20Rulebook.pdf
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Perfect thanks!
As I wouldn't even know what else to run with, it's the only gear I have experience with.
 
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