Scope suggestions: Vortex diamondback vs Cross fire II

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I am looking for a varmint / target shooting scope, range $200 to $300. Major target shooting, 5% for varmint / hunting.
Now I am thinking to get a Vortex diamondback 4-12 BDC (No AO) or Cross fire II 6-18 AO Dead Head BDC.
I know diamondback has a better review, but that one doesn't has an AO. Is it important?

Any suggestions or any other scope recommandations are appreciated.

Thanks!
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I had almost the same dilemma, but went with Diamondback 4-12x BDC with AO. I compared the two side by side and the Diamondback seemed clearer to me. A bonus is the warranty that comes with the vortex.
 
Danen said:
I had almost the same dilemma, but went with Diamondback 4-12x BDC with AO. I compared the two side by side and the Diamondback seemed clearer to me. A bonus is the warranty that comes with the vortex.
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Damn I heard AO is a better option, but Wholesalesports do not have it........ scopes are on sale in WSS now. From there website they only have the one without AO.
 
To the OP, to see the bullet holes in the scope when at the range, you should have AO.
For hunting, the 4-12 diamondback AO version is unnecessary for everything but maybe gophers. So for a hunting gun, I actually prefer the non-AO version.
I wouldn't bother with the crossfire, not the same quality level or even close (Philippines vs. Chinese).

I have used both versions of the 4-12 diamondback and they are great. Nice bright scope for the money.

For mostly target shooting, though, I think a 6-24 scope with AO would be more suited.
Have you considered a 6-24 Bushnell 4000 or B & L? They come up occasionally on the EE, are highly regarded, and priced pretty close to the top end of your budget.

You didn't mention what you are shooting.
 
LarryG said:
To the OP, to see the bullet holes in the scope when at the range, you should have AO.
For hunting, the 4-12 diamondback AO version is unnecessary for everything but maybe gophers. So for a hunting gun, I actually prefer the non-AO version.
I wouldn't bother with the crossfire, not the same quality level or even close (Philippines vs. Chinese).

I have used both versions of the 4-12 diamondback and they are great. Nice bright scope for the money.

For mostly target shooting, though, I think a 6-24 scope with AO would be more suited.
Have you considered a 6-24 Bushnell 4000 or B & L? They come up occasionally on the EE, are highly regarded, and priced pretty close to the top end of your budget.

You didn't mention what you are shooting.
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Thanks for your comments..... I am shooting a .223.
 
This was my experience today with a new Vortex Crossfire 4-12x40AO.
I bought it last wednesday, mounted it and optically bore sighted it on my new Savage 93R17HMR on friday, took it to the range this morning and this is the sight picture that greeted me before I even had a chance to fire a single shot:-



The scope was mounted perfectly aligned horizontally. I had only needed to adjust the windage and elevation by 3 to 4 clicks to bore sight it the night before. The rifle was packed in a case on the way to the range and was carefully unpacked, so nothing externally caused the reticle to shift. Something simply fell apart internally.
Absolute junk, imo. Thank goodness I brought my AR with me to play with or it would have been a wasted day at the range.
I've removed this garbage and installed an old Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x40 on the rifle.
 
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Holly crap!
Six Star said:
This was my experience today with a new Vortex Crossfire 4-12x40AO.
I bought it last wednesday, mounted it and optically bore sighted it on my new Savage 93R17HMR on friday, took it to the range this morning and this is the sight picture that greeted me before I even had a chance to fire a single shot:-



The scope was mounted perfectly aligned horizontally. I had only needed to adjust the windage and elevation by 3 to 4 clicks to bore sight it the night before. The rifle was packed in a case on the way to the range and was carefully unpacked, so nothing externally caused the reticle to shift. Something simply fell apart internally.
Absolute junk, imo. Thank goodness I brought my AR with me to play with or it would have been a wasted day at the range.
I've removed this garbage and installed an old Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x40 on the rifle.
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I dont really think it matters who puts their names on the scopes.....if its made in China you are probably buying junk.
That should probably be the FIRST thing anyone should do for research when looking for a scope.....where is it made.
That will tell you more about the quality of the glass then anything else.
 
Hitzy said:
I dont really think it matters who puts their names on the scopes.....if its made in China you are probably buying junk.
That should probably be the FIRST thing anyone should do for research when looking for a scope.....where is it made.
That will tell you more about the quality of the glass then anything else.
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You are mostly right, however I know somebody that dropped good coin on a Leupold and it died after only 20 rounds or so. Sometimes you just get a bad one too.
 
Lead hammer said:
You are mostly right, however I know somebody that dropped good coin on a Leupold and it died after only 20 rounds or so. Sometimes you just get a bad one too.
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Odds of getting a lemon Leupold are about the same as winning the lottery.....odds of getting a Chinese scope being ####ty about the same as catching a cold in the winter
 
Haha, just wondering if any parts for the Lupy come from China? Hope not. I wish everything we could want could be made here in Canada. I personally try to buy things made in North America but sometimes it costs to much. I have a Vortex Viper, actually 2, they both work very well so far. (are all Vortex scope models made in China?) Would love to have a Nightforce but.........
 
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