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Hey All:

I have a Remington Model 700VLS. I picked it up about 15 years ago. It shoots fairly well. I had a cheap Bushnell Banner scope on it, which I just replaced with a Vortex Viper hst. But I haven't been able to successfully zero it in. At 25 yards I am still out an inch to the right and have maxed out the windage adjustments. I got new Leopold rings and bases. My old scope didn't have easily adjustable windage and elevation, so I largely used Kentucky windage, rather than adjusting the knobs, but I don't think I had this problem with the old scope. It was zeroed in anyway, which is something I can't do with the new scope. Is it likely that I screwed up with how I mounted the scope? Should I try new bases and rings? I believe Burris offers rings that allow further adjustments for windage (shimming)?

Thanks
 
Sounds like scope is bad, or the rifle receiver is drilled off center, or similar.

I don't see any way to mount an HST out of orientation with 3 turrets so maybe try swapping the rings from front to back?
 
did you set up with a bore sighter to see how it lines up before shooting it?

If something is off center then the Burris signature Zee rings are what you need to bring your scope POI to POA.
If its the 30mm rings, they come with the 0 and the offset inserts. If its the 1inch rings, then you have to buy the offset insert set separately, mystic can set you up with them.
 
I've used Millet steel rings with good success. You can do a coarse adjustment for windage with the rings and then fine tune your zero with the scope. Boresighters are definitely your friend.
 
If its a Remington its quite common the front holes in the action are drilled offset to the rear ones. A lot of the time you need to run a windage adjustable set of rings to put the scope in the center of its windage travel.
 
I don't think there is a problem with the rifle since it was zeroed fine with the previous scope.

I bought the new scope, rings and bases from a lgs who mounted and bore sighted it. I took it to the range and it was shooting on the paper, but just barely, several inches to the right. I adjusted the windage as much as I could and could only get it within an inch of POI. I took it home. I didn't start from scratch, only taking the scope out of the rings but didn't remove the bases. No obvious damage from overtightening, and the turrets turn smoothly and easily. I simply put it back in the rings, tightened it to 20, and tried boresighting it myself with a Cabelas' boresighter laser. Similar results to when I was at the range. The laser was hitting way to the right of the crosshairs.
Thanks for the responses everyone!
CV
 
check the scope to make sure it is centered properly ,place the objective bell of the scope flat against a mirror, then look into the scope. You’ll see the reticle itself, plus a separate image of the reticle reflected from the mirror. Theoretically, if the scope is adjusted so the pair of reticles line up perfectly with each other, the scope’s adjustments will be centered.Then check to make sure you have the same number of clicks each way
 
I had the same problem with my brother in laws rifle. Just to try it, I spun one of the rings around and that solved it for me.
Don't know if it'll work for you but it's a cheap fix if it works
 
Ed82 said:
I had the same problem with my brother in laws rifle. Just to try it, I spun one of the rings around and that solved it for me.
Don't know if it'll work for you but it's a cheap fix if it works
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It is worth a shot. Work won't give me the time today or tomorrow, but Tuesday I will be able to play around with it and I will give it a try!
 
The pictures are a bit dark, so probably not very informative but here it is.

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crooked barrel jed said:
If the rear base has a matching screw on the other side, you move the rear of the scope by loosening one screw and tightening the other screw whith the front ring pivoting in its dovetail
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Bingo!!

All the Remington haters can leave now.

Your LGS guy didn't center your scope on the boresight using the screws like he should have.

Here's how to fix it:
1.Dial your scopes windage back to center.
2.Put your boresight in, loosen the screw on the opposite side you need to move your reticle. If you need to move to the right, loosen left screw and tighten right screw until you get real close to your boresight center.
3.Then tighten both sides to lock the scope in place.
****This step is optional but I would do it if it were my rig.****
4. Remove scope from rings and make sure front ring and rear ring are aligned so as not to put a "bending pressure" on the scope itself. Then re-install scope.
 
Well I feel pretty stupid now. That is the problem with getting the store to install it. I didn't get the instructions so I didn't understand how it works. But I won't forget now!

Thanks everyone for all your input. And thanks Shooter for the detailed instructions. I will be following them tomorrow. And then I can try out the Trigger Tech aftermarket trigger I installed the other day as well. It appears to be working, based on the dry firing :)
 
circlingvulture said:
Well I feel pretty stupid now. That is the problem with getting the store to install it. I didn't get the instructions so I didn't understand how it works. But I won't forget now!

Thanks everyone for all your input. And thanks Shooter for the detailed instructions. I will be following them tomorrow. And then I can try out the Trigger Tech aftermarket trigger I installed the other day as well. It appears to be working, based on the dry firing :)
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Just a question, when the store installed the scope, did they align the rings and lap them, or did they just throw it all on?
 
No idea. I assumed (at the time) they did everything they needed to do. They had it for 30 to 45 minutes. Now it certainly doesn't look like they did it properly though.

Now that I know how to adjust the rear base, I was able to get it bore-sighted. I still had to use quite a bit of windage adjustments though. I'm sure I could fix that if I was willing to spend more time playing with it. As long as there are enough adjustments to get it properly zeroed in at 200 yards I will be happy as I don't shoot out at too long of a range yet, and largely use Kentucky windage for now.
 
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