Scored a nice M-1 carbine

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Been searching for another nice original M-1 carbine for a while and finally got my hands on a nice intact , matching numbers, 1944 underwood in awesome shape locally from an old private collection. The highwood stock and also the handguard have the last 4 digits of the serial number on them both and the stock has the circle P on the bottom of the pistol grip and 2 nice cartouches on the right side. One is the crossed cannon stamp and I assume the other is an underwood acceptance stamp. I'll try to get some decent pics of the cartouches tomorrow. The only blemish was a missing rear sight and luckily I had one in my carbine parts collection. All the metal parts have Underwood marks on them and the wood and metal finish is very good. The bore is like new as well. Looking forward to taking it to the range to give it a try.
Al
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A great rifle to shoot; it make no difference what make; as long as its USGI. Everyone that I've seen handle or shoot one instantly falls in love with such a handy rifle. Good to know you found one to your liking; but it seems you have a few others in you collection.
 
I am not a M1 Carbine expert.

It is my understanding that there are two versions of the M1 carbine. First is the war time version, like yours. It does not have the bayomount on the barrel. It is my understanding the bayo mount was added during refurb after the war. And I think the correct rear sight for the war-time rifle is a simple two-peep flip sight, much like the one on the #4. The one on your rifle looks like the one added during the post-war re-furb.

Wartime sight ooked like this:

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Thanks for the comments guys. Ganderite, it wasn't refurbed from what i can see, I put that sight on this rifle after purchasing it as it was missing when I bought it. I am looking for a flip sight to put on it and have a lead on one now. The former owner had taken it off for some reason, passed away and left the rifle to his son who had no idea where it was unfortunately. Thanks for the tape tip sunray. that solved the issue! I slid that pouch on myself after I bought the rifle as well as the sling. I do have an original G.I. sling for it too now. I have no idea where I got that old sling but it was like new and in a bag packed with a carbine oiler back when I got it in a parts lot.
Here's some pics I just snapped of the stamps on the stock.
Al
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the us did not stamp the serial on the stocks/handguards the germans did through is the # stamped on other parts too?


depending on the serial # range it may have had a flip up rear sight as far a refurb they did it during and after the war the bayolug and flip safty would have been added if it had gone thru a us rebuild
 
The serial number is stamped only on the side of the Op rod, sling well of the stock and underside of the handguard. It is also very faintly EP'd on the exposed surface of the bolt though. Everything is either stamped Underwood or "U" that is marked. There are no Bavarian police markings at all on the gun anywhere that I can find.
 
That is the first carbine I have seen that had not gone through the post war refurb to change the sight and add the bayo lug.

I just watched the Pacific mini-series and was pleased to see that they used carbines like yours in the movie. The version we are all familair with (with a bayolug and the slider rear sight) is the post war version, as used in Korea.
 
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That is the first carbine I have seen that had not gone through the post war refurb to change the sight and add the bayo lug.

I just watched the Pacific mini-series and was pleased to see that they used carbines like yours in the movie. The version we are all familair with (with a bayolug and the slider rear sight) is the post war version, as used in Korea.
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no there are thousands the us gave them to everyone who would kill germans or the japs they never got upgraded

they were air dropped into europe and parts of asia by the plane load

many ended up in china and lots were brought into canada by lever arms a few years ago

the above carbine is a nice example

all german carbines were NOT marked but had the serial # stamped on various parts i have a postal meter one like that # on the stock op rod handle and trigger group

cant recall if that manufacture made type one parts if so id not shoot it type 1 bolts tend to crack at the oprod lug and the type one triggers jam and require removal of trigger group to reset ( a real PITA)

if you want send me a pm with the serial x out last few #'s if you like and ill look up what parts it should have on it
 
goldidig,

Very nice looking carbine… congratulations…nice stock markings.

Shown below;

This is a Bavarian M1 Inland manufactured carbine, barrel dated 12-43.
It has all the signs of a Bavarian carbine without the specific receiver rail markings….probably was originally marked “Bavaria Rural Police.”

On the left side of the receiver there is a “black goopy” looking substance that has covered the location where the Bavarian agency markings probably once appeared.

Take a look at the photos to see if they look like what you see on your gun. (Location of Serial numbers etc.)

Also check on Jim Mock’s web site….he is the “Guru” regarding these guns.

David

http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/


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This is another Bavarian carbine that still shows the “Bavaria Rural Police” markings.


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That's exactly what my rifle is numbered like David. No Bavarian markings or stamps but the last 4 digits of the serial number are in the EXACT same spots as yours. The only difference I see is my bolt has a very faint electro pencil 4 digit on it instead of stamped into it. I have that same black stuff on the receiver edge as well. I am now off to check out the website you suggested. Thanks for the heads up and the fantastic photos!
Al
 
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