Sd.Kfz 251 Ausf D details

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Here are some pics of the 1943 Hanomag made Sd.Kfz251. The vehicle was found in a much abused, much chopped up, but still running with its original gas Maybach engine ( an amazingly quite motor to hear running) in a scrap yard in Northern France. It then traveled to the Czech Republic where its chassis was worked on then it was shipped to the USA and its current owner. The 251 came with its nose armour as the rest was cut off during its scrap yard service so extensive research and work went into replicating that along with about a million and one other details. So here is some pictures of what must be the best if not the only actual 251 driving in North America.

^ The 251 looks like it is doing 80KPH just sitting still.

^ typical swept back look of a Ausf D.

Drivers seat and controls.

^ Radio operator office, both are Spartan in the extreme.

^ Wooden seats for eight (or more).

^Bosch tactical light

^ For when you find yourself in a rough part of town.

^ Geee...now where have I seen this type of track and sprocket arrangement before ? Those Germans love over engineering things.

^Couple of old boys hanging out.

^ Lots of old boys hanging out and basking in the sunshine.
 
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Was it rebuilt using REAL armor plate? Or did they just make it look like the real thing by using mild steel plate.

And does it being mild steel diminish this 251 in some way (like lets get real the vehicle is not going to be shot at or come under fire)? Do you own a "real" 251 ? And if so please feel free to post pictures.
 
And does it being mild steel diminish this 251 in some way (like lets get real the vehicle is not going to be shot at or come under fire)? Do you own a "real" 251 ? And if so please feel free to post pictures.

You don't have to get all bent out of shape. Just asking a question. There are restorations and then there are RESTORATIONS. "Does it being mild steel diminish this 251 in some way"? I know people who have invested enormous amount of time, energy and money securing original parts for a restoration. For them the answer would be yes. Is it a cool vehicle even if it was "restored" using mild steel plate? YES!
 
Hardly all "bent out of shape" my friend, just heard to many rivet counters slagging vehicles who live to find fault in others work to count. I give full marks to the fellow who own this vehicle and the guys who did the work as this was hardly a minor restoration and the end results speak highly of all involved in the RESTORATION of this 251. For your info the REAL WWII armour front half ends at the welded seam above the load stencil. The invite stands, please feel free to post your 251 pictures.
 
That is absolutely amazing rebuild. Your comment on it possibly being the only working 251 in North America makes me wonder. In the early '60's for 5 seasons a series ran on TV called "Combat" about a WW2 American Rifle section(squad if you talk American). In numerous episodes 251 were used, wonder what happened to them all?
 
XRCD011, Sorry to say I don't have a 251. And I was not "finding fault" with the restoration. I am impressed with the restoration and give full credit to those who did it. I guess I should have asked if the restorers found the rear section to use in the restoration. Again, I think they did a great job.
 
Wizard, no problem you had a question and put it out there. The outfit who did the restoration even researched the rear door hinges and made new. The piano hinge for the tool boxes had to come from Europe as the correct 30mm hinge is not to be found in N.America, sure they could have stuck something from Home Depot on and nobody would be the wiser but they certainly set the bar high on this vehicle. Even finding the correct 8mm 8G bolts with 14mm heads, one could stick a current 8.8G 13mm headed bolt on and no one would be the wiser. And that's the easy stuff to attend to try rebuilding a Maybach engine, rerubber 251 road wheels or correcting a frame rail by 5mm. When it comes to rivet counting, the worst guys are the people who actually own the vehicle(s), I am forever tweaking and correcting things that drive me crazy on my stuff.

^ New made correct door hinges, one cannot walk in and pick up a handful at Home Depot.

^ The End
 
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Beautiful vehicle! I wish I could something like that. I remember in the mid-1980's surplused Czech half-tracks were being sold for a paltry $10k. Even T34's were offered for the same price - bargain deals even in that time.
 
Nice restoration! Would love to see pictures of this thing all dirty and live in, yours looks like it's coming right of the factory :)

Congrats on owning such a rare running vehicle. I didn't realize runners had become so rare now!

-Steve
 
These things are awesome! I have always wanted to make one of those sd.kfz 222 off an old truck chasis. maybe one day I will...
 
And does it being mild steel diminish this 251 in some way (like lets get real the vehicle is not going to be shot at or come under fire)? Do you own a "real" 251 ? And if so please feel free to post pictures.

That was a fair question he asked. Be nice! Don't need to scare anyone away.

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Hardly all "bent out of shape" my friend, just heard to many rivet counters slagging vehicles who live to find fault in others work to count. I give full marks to the fellow who own this vehicle and the guys who did the work as this was hardly a minor restoration and the end results speak highly of all involved in the RESTORATION of this 251. For your info the REAL WWII armour front half ends at the welded seam above the load stencil. The invite stands, please feel free to post your 251 pictures.

so the drivers "windshield" and the hood are original and rest of the hull is not? what about the MG shield? what happened to the rest of the original pieces? scrapped? any pics of before?

there is a 251/1 A in private hands in the USA, but its in rough shape i hear, and the littlefield collection had a 251/1 D that i would guess was running and driving, but i dont know where it is now
 
so the drivers "windshield" and the hood are original and rest of the hull is not? what about the MG shield? what happened to the rest of the original pieces? scrapped? any pics of before?

there is a 251/1 A in private hands in the USA, but its in rough shape i hear, and the littlefield collection had a 251/1 D that i would guess was running and driving, but i dont know where it is now
No before pics that I am aware of but I can ask the owner, lots during the restoration, even on Youtube. I believe the Littlefield 251 went back to Europe. The outfit that did this restoration now has a couple other 251s and OTs getting worked on. The MG shield looks pretty straight forward it was the curved sheet metal piece on the hull top just before the shield (should see a bit of the shield in the MG picture) that took a huge investment in time and thinking to get right. The armour shutters are new made. Surviving German vehicles from WWII generally lived a hard and abused to no end life once civilians got them then a half centaury of driving the krap out of it, repairs only to keep things running, weird no original parts cobbled together. Had people back then an inkling of the value today I think more would have been salted away in barns and sheds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wJlaR9dSPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_ExCKwYuhY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ5_JmAKjRU
^Youtube vids showing the 251 over the past couple years.
Here is an example of the hideous things done to Ex Wehrmacht vehicles in post war Europe to essentially "make" a car. This poor little schwimmwagen has had some werk done to it for sure.


^ A pic for comparison purposes.
 
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