Serious Enfield Road Block =-(

Wally

Wally

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Hey guys, I'm looking for some help again =-(

I Just got my Huber Concepts ball trigger for my Enfield and $100 and lots of bad advice later It doesn't fit. I Asked the Guy at huber, Numeric Gun parts AND even the guy that runs Surplusrifle.com if it would fit a No4 MkII and they all said yes.... WRONG.

This is the Email I sent to the 3:

Hello, I have a 1955 Lee Enfield No.4 MkII. I just spent $100CDN on a Huber concepts Ball trigger for it and, even though I was ASSURED by several different sources that it would, It Doesn't Fit! I'm wondering what it is I should do? It's now hunting season and I am without a trigger! I have included pictures for your reference and I'm hoping I can get some insight into my Conundrum. My first and only thought so far is Cutting the obtrusive area off the back of the trigger. This material to be removed has the Creep control screw in it. Would I be improving or worsening my situation by modifying the trigger in such a way? How would I regain my ability to limit the Creep?

Please let me know what you think, I need to have this thing operational ASAP (The Bucks won't wait =-)

Thanks in Advance
Mike

All Pictures are below. I'm sorry the First ever posted pics of my Enfield are of it in Pieces =-)

I got my Boyd's stock and it looks good. I'm just trying to decide how to finnish it. Linseed oil, Stain it dark for future matching wood or just clear coat it as a temporary solution.

Anyway, this trigger thing is driving me nuts. Also, I though the Barrels could be Removed from the recievers on these things? Looks like mine is Machined from one piece of Steel, Barrel and reciever!? I Wish I knew what the hell all the stampings meant. =-)

Thanks Guys.
Wally

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Hands in the air and step away from the Enfield! You are in danger of changing your handle to "Bubba" :shock:

You do know that you could sell that enfield for enough to buy a hunting rifle if that is what you want right?
 
Aftermarket triggers generally need to be fitted. Few are 'drop in' parts.
"...how to finnish it..." Boiled linseed oil.
Barrels can be removed with proper tools. A barrel vise and action wrench.
Please reduce the size of your pictures. The guy who may have already done this may be on dial-up and loading this page will take until next week.
 
sunray said:
Aftermarket triggers generally need to be fitted. Few are 'drop in' parts.
"...how to finnish it..." Boiled linseed oil.
Barrels can be removed with proper tools. A barrel vise and action wrench.
Please reduce the size of your pictures. The guy who may have already done this may be on dial-up and loading this page will take until next week.
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Thanks for the reply Sunray. I believe this trigger is advertised as a "True Drop in Trigger" Look at the trigger and look at the Reciever, we're talkin serious mod's. Yeah, I might as well do the oak in BLO aswell. Again, look at the pictures, the barrel and Reciever are one solid piece.

For the future I will resize my Pics, Just wanted high rez so everything could be seen.

Thanks
Wally
 
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Wally...you have a No4 MK2 with a hung trigger......Huber will not work with this rifle. The trigger is design as a drop in for a No4MK1 or MK1*. You have an excellent trigger however the wrong gun . You could sell the trigger or trade your Endield for the proper model. If you're building a sporter and it looks that way from your components, I'd trade or sell the rifle for the correct model. You will also have trouble with the Boyd forend!If you need some help PM or email me. Ron
 
Thanks John Y, I didn't know that.

Hey ron, I Love my Enfied and it will never be sold. All the mods I'm doing will be 100% reversable. I Simply want the rifle to be a little more practicle for hunting. As Stated in a few other posts this is NOT a Bubba Job. I Don't want a sporter, just a better butt stock that is more comfortable to Hold and raises my eye more for my Scope. I Actually got a reply from Huber Concepts before I bought the Trigger and he Said it would fit in a No4 MkII. I got an email reply back from the guy that runs Surplusrifle.com and he said the Origonal Huber Triggers did not have the creep screw on the back and suggested I cut that area off. I Agree with him so far. Trading the Enfield in for one to fit the trigger is like throwing the Baby out with the Bathwater lol.

So as it Stands It looks like I'm modding the Trigger. Thats the Best Suggestion I've gotten yet and it was the first to pop into my own head.

You Guys will see how it works out, I'll post pictures of the finnished unit and perhaps there will be some Crow to be eaten.... :D

WAlly
 
Sounds like you're having fun! Your experiences are typical of the DIY gunsmith - at the end of this effort you'll be able to advise other distressed internet souls... Here's some more free, possibly spurious, advice.
1) An alternate solution to your current situation is to buy a No4 Mk1/1* that is already sported, perhaps a Parker Hale or a Churchill with an aftermarket stock and D+T'ed - good for scoping. A rifle like this would cost you about 150 large - not much more than what you paid for the trigger. Then shoot your collectible rifle at the range.
2) If your rifle has a one piece receiver/ barrel it would be a one of a kind.... Why would you want to take off the barrel in the first place?
3) I note you live in BC, and you want to use this rifle for hunting, yet retain the milsurp collectibility. Linseed oil is not particularly resistant to water (rain). Tung oil is better suited for the new wood, but you affect the collectibility if you redo the forestock. Regardless, it will be very difficult to match the color of the existing wood using stains, or any other product, as your existing wood is beech (very light), and your new wood is dark. You'll likely have to settle for a two tone rifle, unless you buy a forestock of the same material.

At the end of the day, there exists the potential to spend a lot of time and money. Best to consider all your options :D By the way, I assume you are using a no gunsmith scope mount (B Square, S+K ???). Have you shot the rifle with it? A lot of folk find that these types of mounts are not secure enough to hold zero - a characteristic which is undesireabe for a hunting rifle.
 
Get a sportered No.4Mk1 from a gunsmithing shop - generally a sub-$100 investment. Then your parts will fit.

Alternately, take the Mk2 and parts to the same gunsmith and get him to fix the issue. You are not a gunsmith and it shows. A gunsmith can make it work, but the mods will NOT be 100% reversible. Wrong part for the wrong gun - sorry mate.
 
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