Sestroryetsk 1917 Mosin Nagant Butt Questions

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Hello All!

I have a 1917 Sestroyetsk Mosin Nagant, and the buttplate is unusual, there are markings on it I do not understand.

Firstly, the buttplate is MATCHING, but from another manufacturer? This rifle is SS Finn marked, for the Civil guard, who bought, then sold then bought again from the SA (Finnish Army). Could the Finns have marked it as such? The bolt matches as well, and there is a place for a stock disk in the wood, where the disk was removed.

Here is a picture of the top of the buttplate:

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Next, we have this marking set, it reads, at the very top, 11 then just beside it 1 over 1. I have never seen this kind of marking? Ideas? What do I have?

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Next up, is the gothic style 5 and J below it. My friend Nabs here on CGN says it looks extremely close to a WWI German "repair depot" stamp. Maybe he can describe that concept better.

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Lastly, we have a K which looks extremely close to the K used on Austro-Hungarian arms in the WWI era to symbolise Steyr factory. Could this buttplate have been captured, marked by the Austrians? Experts please help!

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Many thanks!
-Drachenblut
 
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The "5 and J" look very close to some German repair depots markings that I have on some of my Gewehr 98s and on a prospective Gewehr 88/05. If that is true, and the rifle may have been captured by the Germans and sold to the Finnish post war, it may explain the marking.

Could just be a coincidence with Russian maker marks.

I do remember there being a Finnish stock disc cut out on the side of the stock, and the roughly the position where the "DEUTSCHE REICH" would be if she was a WW1 German capture.

If my guess is correct, this would mean repair at the arms depot number 5 located in Koblenz in the Rhineland and repaired by armourer with the inspection letter "J".
 
Drachenblut said:
Hello All!

I have a 1917 Sestroyetsk Mosin Nagant, and the buttplate is unusual, there are markings on it I do not understand.

Firstly, the buttplate is MATCHING, but from another manufacturer? This rifle is SS Finn marked, for the Civil guard, who bought, then sold then bought again from the SA (Finnish Army). Could the Finns have marked it as such? The bolt matches as well, and there is a place for a stock disk in the wood, where the disk was removed.

Here is a picture of the top of the buttplate:



Next, we have this marking set, it reads, at the very top, 11 then just beside it 1 over 1. I have never seen this kind of marking? Ideas? What do I have?




Many thanks!
-Drachenblut
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Hello,

This is Finn inspector marks.I do have absolutely the same buttplate.

=II=
Inspection mark, can be I or III also
Civil Guard M24, M28, and M28/30 buttplates
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/0337.jpg

This is Izevsk buttplate,but re stamped to match the barrel.Unusual for Finns.

I used to see # 11 few times,and I have the same # 11 on my rear sight.

Other letters and digits- probably done by Germans or Austrians.

 
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