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So after continuing to shoot after some evidence that my Shadow doesn't group, let's say 5000 rounds through this gun, I finally cooked up a variety of loads to see if it has a taste for something in particular.

13m, 7 shot groups with my arms resting just behind the wrists.

I only see one group there that I would consider decent, the rest are ugly. Time to try different brands of bullets and powder?

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Just because you rest your hands doesn't mean you don't flinch a little. It could also be a vision thing that is preventing you from identically matching the green dot to your front sight evenly with each shot. Before you panic I'd suggest you get a known very good shooter to try the gun.

Having said that the Shadow is still a slightly adapted service pistol. It's not tuned up to shoot bullseye match level groups. For 13 yards it's likely a 1/2 to 3/4 inch group size gun even shot from a Ransom Rest.
 
nada, I've heard that 231 is dirty. Also, are you aware that nada is the name of one of the most famous Starcraft professional gamers?
 
nada said:
DRG 135 lead , 231 @ 3.8/4.0 , 1.110 . ransom rest 2" @ 25yds
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I would have expected a slightly tighter group than that. But then individual guns could easily vary a little here and there.


Makes a person wonder what would happen if a Shadow were accurized in much the same way as with 1911's for match shooting. Namely slide to frame fitting, barrel to slide fitting so it seats back in exactly the same position, some form of barrel bushing added or otherwise fitting the muzzle to the nose opening and optimizing the headspacing.
 
Yes, Silhouette powder. No, don't have another pistol (don't really want another either, just want to figure out how to shoot accurately / how to get the Shadow to shoot accurately).

I'll work on the ransom rest test. I know our club has one, but I'll have to get some veterans to show me where the parts are hidden.
 
i make egg sized 10rnd groups at that range when i rest my hands with my m & p (handloads bullseye powder) gun can do better

best drill i can give you that helped me the most is the quarter drill:

at home, with an UNLOADED gun hold the gun level in your domanent hand, put the quarter on the front sight and balance it there as you move the gun to eye level to dry fire.

if you can get both hands on the pistol and move it up, and pull the trigger, without the quarter falling off, congratulations, you have done one rep... now do this at least 10-20 times a night as often as you can

if the quarter falls, it dont count! if you feel like an idiot, thats ok, its pretty hard.


if you get to the point where a quarter is too easy... try a spent .45 case instead

if a quarter is really to hard, twoonies are a bit easier
 
My Shadow will almost keep up with my shooting buddy`s X5 SA; and he is a good shot by the way. In a competition, I outshot 3 X5`s and a bunch of other nice rigs at 35 meters with Winchester Super X 147 grain flatnose.

Not to rip on you, but I am seeing a some half decent horizontal width groups but they are stringing vertically. It looks like you may want to work a bit on your breathing as you shoot; if I do not concentrate on that I get very similar groups. It usually takes 500-600 rounds in the spring to really get over it.
 
you are going about this kind of backward. Start with a target at 3yds, offhand (two handed, proper grip) shoot it. until you can can keep a tight group, don't move back. It's not the gun. Those buckshot patterns you've posted are almost certainly you, not the gun.
As for the Ransom Rest, unless they have a set of CZ grip panels for it, it won't help you in the least.
 
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