Shanghai Volunteer Company
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Brutus
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Yep. Not a great example of stellar western history. Coolies and rickshaw were western inventions so life was better for western settlers at the cost of locals.
The Canidrome was a greyhound race track built in the French International Consession 1928. No Chinese were permitted to enter the viewing stands during this time. It was the only one of three race tracks to survive WW2 and the Civil War. After 1949 it became a public space for communist trials and mass shooting executions of political enemies of the state.
In 1951 the executors were thrilled to receive brand new T-33s from thier Russian friends.
This just on the outskirts of Shanghai.
The Opium Wars hurried along the Boxers and then the Maoists to eventual victory.
Now we have the CCP monster in Beijing.
The Canidrome was a greyhound race track built in the French International Consession 1928. No Chinese were permitted to enter the viewing stands during this time. It was the only one of three race tracks to survive WW2 and the Civil War. After 1949 it became a public space for communist trials and mass shooting executions of political enemies of the state.
In 1951 the executors were thrilled to receive brand new T-33s from thier Russian friends.
This just on the outskirts of Shanghai.
The Opium Wars hurried along the Boxers and then the Maoists to eventual victory.
Now we have the CCP monster in Beijing.
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Meanwhile, in the German concession, the Germans were busy doing important things - like shipping an entire brewery and all its equipment piece by piece from Bavaria, along with the recipe for a light lager. The brewery is still in operation, and you can get Tsing Tao, made from the same recipe, at the same brewery, at your local liquor store.
A few folks are forgetting to factor in context here - the China of the European Concessions wasn't the warm and fuzzy inclusive haven for State sanctioned mediocrity that we now claim to be the best way to run a society - but the China before that wasn't either. This myopic mistake is repeated again and again by people who really should know better, or who do, but have a political or social agenda to follow. In the China before the Europeans, there wasn't some wonderful familyhood of peoplekind at play - most people lived their lives in the street or in the field. They were born, lived, and died with nothing. It would not be unusual to see people near to starvation on a daily basis. So let's leave the social Marxism to the university professors and middle class rich kids. Life sucked for the average person both pre- and post- European involvement, got worse when the Japanese arrived, and maintained a pretty sh*tty level through the 50's, '60's, 70's, 80's, all the way up to today. Mao inadvertently killed 5 million people by starvation because he thought birds were eating all of their crops - his answer was to kill probably billions of birds (there is film on this) the end result was that insects who would normally be eaten by birds ate the crops, 5 million people starved - government response? Oops, move on. That's Communism for you, bury your errors and move on. So put the revisionist history to one side and at least try to be realistic.
A few folks are forgetting to factor in context here - the China of the European Concessions wasn't the warm and fuzzy inclusive haven for State sanctioned mediocrity that we now claim to be the best way to run a society - but the China before that wasn't either. This myopic mistake is repeated again and again by people who really should know better, or who do, but have a political or social agenda to follow. In the China before the Europeans, there wasn't some wonderful familyhood of peoplekind at play - most people lived their lives in the street or in the field. They were born, lived, and died with nothing. It would not be unusual to see people near to starvation on a daily basis. So let's leave the social Marxism to the university professors and middle class rich kids. Life sucked for the average person both pre- and post- European involvement, got worse when the Japanese arrived, and maintained a pretty sh*tty level through the 50's, '60's, 70's, 80's, all the way up to today. Mao inadvertently killed 5 million people by starvation because he thought birds were eating all of their crops - his answer was to kill probably billions of birds (there is film on this) the end result was that insects who would normally be eaten by birds ate the crops, 5 million people starved - government response? Oops, move on. That's Communism for you, bury your errors and move on. So put the revisionist history to one side and at least try to be realistic.
My goodness! The truth!!! Sounds familiar, the current Canadian minority government trying to kill off western Canadian oil and gas business, farming, and anything else we try to do. People may not starve by the millions, but a great number will suffer economic disaster. (A great number already have suffered.)
Absolutely, also the opposite, they've also been invaded by another - or will be. I'm still waiting for the Romans, Norwegians and French to pay me reparations for taking over my family's unceded territory. The Romans particularly are way past due and they still haven't taken their wall down.
