Shilen Barrels Now Available!!!!!

coolpoolken, I oops on the decimal place. yes, a few thou would be huge variance in dimensions.

Here is how Shilen describes their grades.

Select Match Grade
These stainless steel masterpieces of machining and hand lapping are intended for the competition shooter-- or even the hunter-- who wants the ultimate in accuracy and quality. These are our highest grade barrel and, of course, the most costly. What makes them so good that benchrest shooters, such as Tony Boyer, crave them? Consider this: To meet Select Match Grade criteria, the groove diameter must air gauge within .0003" of our standard diameter. Moreover, the uniformity of the bore cannot vary more than .0001" for the entire length of the barrel. These barrels are also completely stress relieved, and the bore is polished to a gleaming surface finish by our most experienced lappers.

Match Grade
Our Match Grade barrels don't quite meet Select Match criteria-- but not by much! In these barrels, the bore must measure within .0005" of our standard diameter and cannot vary in diameter more than .0003" for the length of the barrel. So how much accuracy does a couple of "tenths" give away, compared to our Select Match barrels? Perhaps not any! The point is, whether or not there is any real difference in the accuracy potential between the Match and Select Match grades, the really demanding shooter must play it safe and go with the higher grade. In many cartridges and barrel twists, the accuracy difference between the two simply can't be detected. So unless you're gunning for one-hole groups or just demand the top of the line, the Match Grade barrel is your best choice for many forms of competitive shooting and for hunting varmints and big game. The Match Grade is completely stress relieved and fully warranted. The price of Match Grade stainless steel barrels includes hand lapping to a beautifully smooth surface. Chrome-moly can be lapped to a similar finish at an additional charge.

Both are available in all calibers, twists and contours.

http://www.shilen.com/barrelGrades.html

Jerry
 
This is similar to the 5R style of rifling made popular by Rock Barrels.

The idea is to reduce bullet engraving for better velocities and reduced fouling.

Unfortunately, this style is not new as it was one of the first forms of rifling over 100yrs ago.

Many have had excellent success with the Rock barrels in tactical style rifles.

As far as I know, no one in the BR world uses this form of rifling.

Neither good nor bad. Just another thing to try.

Jerry
 
p-17 said:
Jerry, what is the actual, real-world difference between the regular Shilen Match barrel and the Select Match barrel?
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I talked to Ed Shilen many years ago about this... I wanted to know how much difference in performance more than the physical difference...

Basically what I understood was with larger calibers the accuracy difference would be negligible after about 400 rounds.

Good luck in your new endeavour Jerry.
 
Kriegers are single point cut rifled, Shilen's are button rifled. Krieger are Cryo treated, Shilen are not, Krieger has only one grade of barrels (Match quality) whereas Shilen has a budget line. Krieger will not produce barrels that are pre-threaded or chambered out of concerns for optimal head spacing. Shilen does sell drop-ins with chambers and threads.

At the end of the day, what counts is whether the bloody thing shoots. Both manufacturers make accurate barrels and both have devout followings. Best to ask around and get a sense from someone other than the salesmen for an objective answer.
 
FlyingHigh said:
excellent! then i can decide which one to put on my custom build next year. :) i was wondering what the differences between the two are?
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If you look at post #21 above, I have posted the description of Shilen barrel grades. All barrels are fully stressed relieved.

All savage prefit barrels are cut to zero headspace and match quality bore alignment. The use of a barrel nut allows a savage owner to maintain that level of headspace on their actions.

This is not possible with any shoulder headspaced action. That is why I am reluctant to offer prechambered barrels for other actions. They would need final fitting by a gunsmith so there is precious little saved from doing the install fully from a barrel blank.

And alot saved if the reamers don't match up.

As to accuracy potential for prefit Savage/Stevens barrels, the Shilen product is the top of the heap.

For BR/competition, there are many shooters using BOTH brands amoungst others and doing very well. Shilen has done very well in the SR BR game setting various records over the years.

I have personally owned Kreiger barrels and they shot superbly. I have also owned Gaillard, Brux, Shilen and Douglas which have shot equally well.

Jerry
 
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