Shiloh Sharps in 2024?

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Hello everyone,

Not sure if this is the right subforum, but I'm in the market for a Sharps in 45-120 and wondering if anyone has experience on getting a Shiloh under the current legal environment. I haven't found many recent posts on this and much of the information I've come across is 10+ years old. Looking at the RCMP website it appears there is a way to bring one in myself?
 
Prophet River has a US based partner company that can import firearms and parts for you. Yes you pay more but they make the process painless.
 
It isn't as much as Canadian laws as it is the US regulations dealing with the selling and buying of firearms and ITAR on the export of the same.

They are importable. You will have use someone like BorderView to import a rifle. They have the required FFL.

Talk with Borderview then place you order with Shiloh. I believe the current wait times at Shiloh is 22-28 months till completed ready for shipping plus any Borderview wait times. Shiloh will have to ship tp a FFL dealer such as Borderview who in turn exports it to themselves and then ships to under Canadian law.

BTW, 45-120 was not an original chambering in Sharps rifles. It was not offered until after the Original Sharps firm closed their doors at the end of the buffalo era.

Good luck. Which model are going for?
 
Beautiful guns. Yep Clay will get them in for you. Stick with 45-70. You’ll thank me later. Check out their forum. It’s a plethora or information. Post pictures when you get one:p
 
Shiloh Sharps does not chamber their rifles for 45-120. I think in the old Farmingdale days it was possible.

Your choices now are the .45-110 ( .45-2-7/8" ) and .45-100 ( .45-2.6" ). I have Shiloh's chambered in each and would recommend the 2.6" long case now. The 2-7/8" cases are very hard to get. I laid in a good supply of Norma cases when they were available. Starline still makes the 45-100 cases and are much more available.

For importing, Prophet River or Borderview are good options. Importing prices have gone up considerably in the last few years. It used to just be a flat rate, but now it's a flat rate plus a percentage of the rifle's cost.

Chris.
 
I had a Farmingdale Shiloh Sharps business rifle in 45/120 and it was a brutal gun to shoot at a bench with full loads.Mine had the crescent buttplate which made felt recoil worse.Unless you really need/want a larger caliber I agree with some of the other comments and get yourself one in 45/70 as it will probably do everything you want and be easier on the pocket in the long run.Also do yourself a favour and get one with the shotgun butt.With the current exchange rate ,shipping ,importing ,tax and depending on what model and extras you want a new Shiloh can easily cost over $4000 to $5000 plus so take your time and think what you really want in a Sharps
 
chasseur said:
I had a Farmingdale Shiloh Sharps business rifle in 45/120 and it was a brutal gun to shoot at a bench with full loads.Mine had the crescent buttplate which made felt recoil worse.Unless you really need/want a larger caliber I agree with some of the other comments and get yourself one in 45/70 as it will probably do everything you want and be easier on the pocket in the long run.Also do yourself a favour and get one with the shotgun butt.With the current exchange rate ,shipping ,importing ,tax and depending on what model and extras you want a new Shiloh can easily cost over $4000 to $5000 plus so take your time and think what you really want in a Sharps
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That is good advice. You really want to be sure of what you are getting into before buying one. I'm sure a lot of people have bought the Quigley model, shot it two or three times and stuck it into the back of the safe :)

Chris.
 
Shiloh's website shows they still chamber rifles in the 45-120 Cartridge. I have an 1874 Shiloh Sharps in 45-120 and find it really likes heavier 600gr + projectiles over FFG.

As mentioned, you'll require an importer / exporter. I spoke with Shiloh last spring and I believe (then) the wait time was approx 24 months.
 
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chasseur said:
I had a Farmingdale Shiloh Sharps business rifle in 45/120 and it was a brutal gun to shoot at a bench with full loads.Mine had the crescent buttplate which made felt recoil worse.Unless you really need/want a larger caliber I agree with some of the other comments and get yourself one in 45/70 as it will probably do everything you want and be easier on the pocket in the long run.Also do yourself a favour and get one with the shotgun butt.With the current exchange rate ,shipping ,importing ,tax and depending on what model and extras you want a new Shiloh can easily cost over $4000 to $5000 plus so take your time and think what you really want in a Sharps
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I have a Pedersoli Sharps Long Range in .45-110 and the recoil is as brutal. Sometimes for low recoil for shooting at short range I will use a mild load from modern powder like Accurate 5744.
 
ya like everyone says ... pass on the 45/120.... I shot many years silhouette with 45/70 and after a weekend shoot laying prone with 530 gr ....you did not want to touch the rifle for a while... but hey its your dollar... Shiloh makes the best. MVA for sights and scopes
 
Yeah to me, anything bigger than 45-70 wants to be heavy. My 45-110 has the 14lb bull barrel and actually weighs about 15lbs. It's felt recoil is a lot like a 45-70 to me when shooting paper patched bullets with Swiss Fg powder. On my 45-100 I went with the 16lb barrel ( I believe the rifle is actually about 17 lbs without the scope ). It's very easy to shoot and holds very still on the cross sticks.

The ones I shoot the most are my 40-65's. Low recoil, burns through less powder and lead/tin. Very accurate at silhouette & midrange distances.

If I could only have 2, they'd be a 40-65 and my heavy 45-100.

For some reason I've never really fallen for the 45-70's, although I do shoot those sometimes too. 45-70 was the black powder cartridge chambering I've owned, but mostly I seem to shoot other cartridges.

Chris.
 
Thanks for the advise. I knew there'd be a long wait time but I didn't think it was that bad. Maybe I'll get one of the readily available Pedersolis and use it for a while while I wait.

Or one way to go would be to get a Pedersoli in 45-120 for occasional use and the big $$$ Shiloh in 45-70. I'll probably check out Prophet for the Shiloh as they're near me.
 
If you're set on a Shiloh, keep an eye on the EE and other websites for used rifles. They aren't uncommon and show up every few months I find.
 
ArtyMan said:
Shiloh's website shows they still chamber rifles in the 45-120 Cartridge. I have an 1874 Shiloh Sharps in 45-120 and find it really likes heavier 600gr + projectiles over FFG.

As mentioned, you'll require an importer / exporter. I spoke with Shiloh last spring and I believe (then) the wait time was approx 24 months.
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Sorry about the misinformation. I swear it was told to me a bunch of times, but I never checked for myself. I guess when ordering it's always been over the phone or in person at the Shiloh shop so I didn't scroll through the calibre options.

Chris.
 
Well, checked out the Calgary show and they did have some nice Sharps (Shiloh and Pedersoli), though none quite in the configuration I was looking for. I handled both and though the Shiloh is a step up in fit & finish the Pedersoli seem still quite good. There's some sales on at the moment online for Pedersoli so may go that route tomorrow if I can get Cabelas to match Marstar's price--and save some money for a lever.
 
I was thinking of you when I looked at those rifles as well. The Shilo was a ways from being new but I thought it was priced well enough to get some consideration. It looked like a good starting point to up-grade later if the Shilo bug bit hard enough after trying one.
The Pedersoli showed as near new and wouldnt have been a bad choice neither at the same price as the more heavily used Shilo.
 
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