Shipping Ammo

Tumbleweed

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I just tried to ship a box of ammo to another Gunnut, and found that (a) Canada Post wouldn't accept it, (b) Purolator wouldn't accept it, and (c) DHL wanted $59 to take one lousy box of ammo from Alberta to Ontario. Even the girl at the counter thought it was crazy and phoned DHLs freight wizards, who confirmed the price.

The package is hardly any larger than the original cartridge box, and the total weight is 1.51 pounds.

Does anybody have any ideas how to do this a little cheaper?
 
DHL didn't ask / didn't care.

Purolater asks for a declaration.

And as far as trying to slip one by Canada Post, I really don't need one of those 4 a.m. visits from the S.W.A.T. team over a lousy $40 box of ammo. The risk/reward ratio is too far out of whack for me.
 
Bullets, cartridges and other ammunition are dangerous goods and cannot be mailed. These items fall under Class 1 (Explosives) of the Canadian Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act.

That's a 'cut & paste' from Canada Posts website.
 
FedEx will ship dangerous goods by air but you will have to meet the TDG requirements. It will be expensive no matter which DG carrier you get to do the transport.
I can help with the paperwork if you decide it is worth the shipping cost.
 
Be careful with them too. I shipped a rifle, and then realized I'd broken one of their declarations. Oh well, it went through. Maybe they have agreements with big shippers to get around the surprises.
 
Canpar will ship ammo with a Hazmat fee.
When I called tham about it and said that it was just a small amount going to a friend, he said not to worry about the necessary forms because they don't likely have them. The fellow said to mark the box "consumer goods" and they'll be happy.

When I brought the package to the local depot and the cute little mouse asked what was in it that made it heavy, I told her "pistons".

Everybody left happy.
 
Don't even consider shipping live ammo or primed cases,powder,etc.List it for local pick-up only and be patient.Remember someone shipped Oxygen canisters on a certain Florida airline and is now either in hell or prison.Not worth it.
 
1.8 Prohibition: Explosives
A person must not handle, offer for transport or transport dangerous goods by any means of transport if the dangerous goods are explosives and

(a) are in direct contact with a large means of containment, except when the explosives are to be transported by road vehicle in quantities that are allowed for the explosives in Schedule 1 or in any special provision in Schedule 2; or

(b) are also radioactive materials.






IAW Transportation of Dangerous Goods Regulations, Schedule 1, it appears it is!!!

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-sec-sur/3/sched1-ann1/schedule1results.aspx?UN=0012&Name=&Alpha=False

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UN number Col.2 UN0012
Shipping Name and Description Col.3
CARTRIDGES FOR WEAPONS, INERT PROJECTILE; or CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS
Class Col.4 1.4S

Packing Group/ Category Col.5 II
Special Provisions Col.6
Explosive
Limit and Limited Quantity Index Col.7
ERAP Index Col.8 25
Passenger Carrying Ship Index Col.9
Passenger Carrying Road or Rail Index Col.10
Marine Pollutant




500 kg exemption:

1.16 500 kg Gross Mass Exemption
SOR/2008-34
(1) Part 3 (Documentation), Part 4 (Dangerous Goods Safety Marks) and Part 5 (Means of Containment) do not apply to the handling, offering for transport or transporting of dangerous goods on a road vehicle, a railway vehicle or a ship on a domestic voyage if

(a) in the case of

(i) dangerous goods included in Class 2, Gases, they are in one or more small means of containment in compliance with the requirements for transporting gases in Part 5, Means of Containment, or

(ii) dangerous goods not included in Class 2, Gases, they are in one or more means of containment

(A) each of which has a gross mass less than or equal to 30 kg and that is designed, constructed, filled, closed, secured and maintained so that under normal conditions of transport, including handling, there will be no accidental release of the dangerous goods that could endanger public safety, or

(B) that are drums in compliance with the requirements of section 5.12 of Part 5, Means of Containment, for transporting dangerous goods in drums;

(b) the gross mass of all dangerous goods

(i) transported on the road vehicle or the railway vehicle is less than or equal to 500 kg, and

(ii) transported on the ship on a domestic voyage is less than or equal to 500 kg, excluding the dangerous goods in a road vehicle or railway vehicle being transported on the ship;

(c) each means of containment has displayed on one side, other than a side on which it is intended to rest or to be stacked during transport,

(i) the dangerous goods safety marks required by Part 4, Dangerous Goods Safety Marks, or

(ii) for dangerous goods, other than dangerous goods included in Class 2, Gases, the shipping name of the dangerous goods and the marks required for them in one of the following Acts and regulations, as long as those marks are legible and visible during handling and transporting in the same manner as dangerous goods safety marks:

(A) the “Pest Control Products Act” and its regulations, or

(B) the “Hazardous Products Act” and its regulations;

(d) the dangerous goods are accompanied by a shipping document or document that is located, for a road or railway vehicle or a ship, in accordance with the requirements for location of a shipping document in sections 3.7 to 3.9 of Part 3, Documentation; and

(e) the shipping document or document referred to in paragraph (d) includes the following information in the following order:

(i) the primary class of the dangerous goods, following the word “Class” or “Classe”, and

(ii) the total number of means of containment, on which a dangerous goods safety mark is required to be displayed, for each primary class, following the words “number of means of containment” or “nombre de contenants”.

For example,

Class 3, number of means of containment, 10

Class 8, number of means of containment, 12
SOR/2008-34

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to dangerous goods that

(a) are in a quantity or concentration that requires an emergency response assistance plan;

(b) require a control or emergency temperature;

(c) are included in Class 1, Explosives, except for

(i) explosives included in Class 1.4S, or

(ii) UN numbers UN0191, UN0197, UN0276, UN0312, UN0336, UN0403, UN0431, UN0453 and UN0493;

(d) are included in Class 2.1, Flammable Gases, and are in a cylinder with a capacity greater than 46 L;

(e) are included in Class 2.3, Toxic Gases;

(f) are included in Class 4, Flammable Solids, and Packing Group I;

(g) are included in Class 5.2, Organic Peroxides, unless they are allowed to be transported as limited quantities in accordance with section 1.17 and column 6 of Schedule 1;

(h) are liquids included in Class 6.1, Toxic Substances, and Packing Group I;

(i) are included in Class 6.2, Infectious Substances; or

(j) are included in Class 7, Radioactive Materials, and are required to be licensed by the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission.
SOR/2008-34
 
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Bullets, cartridges and other ammunition are dangerous goods and cannot be mailed. These items fall under Class 1 (Explosives) of the Canadian Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act.

That's a 'cut & paste' from Canada Posts website.

Really? Bullets (ie, inert metal) are considered dangerous goods, eh? Got a llnk to your source?

Somehow I think CanAm is a more reliable source...
 
There is an exemption for under 500 kg NEQ, that does NOT mean that it is not Dangerous Goods. To say that it is not dangerous goods can cause people here to possibly violate the law: ie by mailing through Canada Post, if they took your incorrect advice.
 
There is an exemption for under 500 kg NEQ, that does NOT mean that it is not Dangerous Goods. To say that it is not dangerous goods can cause people here to possibly violate the law: ie by mailing through Canada Post, if they took your incorrect advice.
Yes, an oversimplification for the board. It is canpost regs, not law, that they won't ship ammo, inert ord, etc.
 
Take it to Canpar, man.

I send 3000 rounds of .22 from Calgary TO Toronto for something like $25. I even told the chick at the counter that it was ammunition, seriously.

Canpar is the way to go.
 
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