Shooters arms 1911 military in 9mm ...ejection problem

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This thing is giving us fits...3 out of 9 fail to extract most times.
Resulting in having to drop the mag to clear it.

Gun is next to new with about 300 rounds thru it.

We though it was because it was new.
But it is only getting worse.
This thing is still clean except for the oil I put on it where the slide makes contact with the frame...

Anyone have any advice ?

Quite disappointed , seeing as the old Russian t33 I bought for myself is far more reliable ....
 
Mine is the exact same way. I put a same bend in the extractor which helped. Now it's only 1 a mag that hangs. Mine happens in all 3 of my mecgar mags. Mine also was better new and the more I shoot it the more jams I get.
 
skneub said:
not sure , I chucked the box it came in.
This is however factory reloads from WSS , I am going to pick up some different ammo for the next trip to the range.

No issues at all with feeding, It just leaves a fired case in the camber way to much.....
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So the round fires and the slide does not cycle? Or does it cycle, the hammer is recocked but the round didn't eject or did it double feed?
You may have soft loaded rounds, your recoil spring may be too heavy or both. How is your extractor and/ or ejector?
 
skneub said:
not sure , I chucked the box it came in.
This is however factory reloads from WSS , I am going to pick up some different ammo for the next trip to the range.

No issues at all with feeding, It just leaves a fired case in the camber way to much.....
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My wife had all kinds of issues with 115 grain in her's I would start with different ammo,non ramped 9mm 1911's can sometimes be finicky.
 
skoal said:
Shooting 115 grain by any chance?
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I shoot 115 steel case from mine. I got about the same amount of rounds thru it. The extractors are weird on these guns. Was near impossible to remove mine. It was in that tight. I don't got extraction issues with mine. Mags that come with these are Meg gars.
 
Needs the extractor "tuned" and more tension put on the extractor ... Also might have to "open up" the face of the barrel to accept more of the extractor...
 
Still alive said:
So the round fires and the slide does not cycle? Or does it cycle, the hammer is recocked but the round didn't eject or did it double feed?
You may have soft loaded rounds, your recoil spring may be too heavy or both. How is your extractor and/ or ejector?
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It did try to feed the next round every time...but no place for it to go to

crasheralex said:
Mine is the exact same way. I put a same bend in the extractor which helped. Now it's only 1 a mag that hangs. Mine happens in all 3 of my mecgar mags. Mine also was better new and the more I shoot it the more jams I get.
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I was thinking ejector problem...But this was a bran new gun purchased by myself for my son...
So it should at least work properly to start with (No I have not attempted to contact the dealer about it) It has been in our possession for several months now(just this is only the second trip to the range with it)
 
skneub said:
It did try to feed the next round every time...but no place for it to go to



I was thinking ejector problem...But this was a bran new gun purchased by myself for my son...
So it should at least work properly to start with (No I have not attempted to contact the dealer about it) It has been in our possession for several months now(just this is only the second trip to the range with it)
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So you have a double feed then? The slide is partly open with the next fresh round pushed against the casing of the fired round?
Is the slide lubed? Or is the gun bone dry?
If negative on this, it most likely is your extractor. Did you buy the entry level SAM? Yes, you can have a problem from the start. That's why there's warranties with new guns.
 
Still alive said:
So you have a double feed then? The slide is partly open with the next fresh round pushed against the casing of the fired round?
Is the slide lubed? Or is the gun bone dry?
If negative on this, it most likely is your extractor. Did you buy the entry level SAM? Yes, you can have a problem from the start. That's why there's warranties with new guns.
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I guess it might be an entry level SAM..But it was still new and still under warranty :)
Yes slide is lubed , I lubed it myself to try and get it working better at the range today.
It put exactly 9 rounds thru it for myself..then went straight back to the issues.
Empty in the chamber seems to be partly extracted because the next round feeds under it(This is the case every time it don't extract)


skoal said:
I would try different ammo first.
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Before I bug the dealer I am going to try this
 
skneub said:
I guess it might be an entry level SAM..But it was still new and still under warranty :)
Yes slide is lubed , I lubed it myself to try and get it working better at the range today.
It put exactly 9 rounds thru it for myself..then went straight back to the issues.
Empty in the chamber seems to be partly extracted because the next round feeds under it(This is the case every time it don't extract)



Before I bug the dealer I am going to try this
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Ok, one last possible diagnosis. I know you hunt and shoot long guns but how much experience do you have with handguns? You had a Tok, you said.
I don't mean to sound condescending but do you know about limp wristing a handgun? If you don't have a mag, extractor, ammo, feed etc. issue, maybe it's operator error?
 
Still alive said:
Ok, one last possible diagnosis. I know you hunt and shoot long guns but how much experience do you have with handguns? You had a Tok, you said.
I don't mean to sound condescending but do you know about limp wristing a handgun? If you don't have a mag, extractor, ammo, feed etc. issue, maybe it's operator error?
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No worry's , we are very new to hand guns.
So please explain further
 
skneub said:
No worry's , we are very new to hand guns.
So please explain further
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It's basically not gripping the gun firmly with the webbing of your shooting hand firmly pressed as high as possible into the tang of the grip safety ( in the case of a 1911). The tang is the part of the grip that runs into the beavertail. By gripping low and limp, you run the risk of not having enough impulse to cycle the action properly.
Here's a link for you to read.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limp_wristing
 
Still alive said:
It's basically not gripping the gun firmly with the webbing of your shooting hand firmly pressed as high as possible into the tang of the grip safety ( in the case of a 1911). The tang is the part of the grip that runs into the beavertail. By gripping low and limp, you run the risk of not having enough impulse to cycle the action properly.
Here's a link for you to read.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limp_wristing
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Hmm , you may very well be onto something with this.
Thanks :)
We will have to ensure that this is not our fault( I see a range trip next weekend )
 
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