shooting a pump (noob questions)

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'K..so when I'm shooting a rifle I'm accustomed to pulling in the forend to draw the rifle tight into my shoulder. With a pump this doesn't work because as soon as the trigger is pulled and things go bang :p the forend slides.
So noob question....how does one shoot and cycle a pump with out F...ing things up????
 
Pulling back on the forend shouldn't have any effect on the way the shotgun cycles. I bought a Winchester 1300 a few years ago, and it would jam all the time. I took it apart, cleaned and lubricated every moving part, now it performs flawlessly. Does anyone else have a similar experience with other makes of shotgun?
 
Pulling back on the forend shouldn't have any effect on the way the shotgun cycles.

On modern shotguns that is fairly true. On older pumps, Win M12 etc., pulling the forend rearward locks the action. A push forward is required to cycle the action.

This is a safety mechanism from the days of "hangfires" that helped prevent the actions from being opened too soon.
 
Given the recoil of almost all shotguns you should hold neutral or slightly forward. Buy a flat or two of ammo and figure it out for yourself. It's always the best and funnest option. I hold firm at the shoulder and have the front loose personally.
 
On modern shotguns that is fairly true. On older pumps, Win M12 etc., pulling the forend rearward locks the action. A push forward is required to cycle the action.

This is a safety mechanism from the days of "hangfires" that helped prevent the actions from being opened too soon.

The rem 870, mossberg and benelli all lock up if you pull back on the slide before you fire. This is a safety that prevents out of battery firing "which is very bad"

Hold the forend loose and the pistol grip tight
 
Its good to have a firm grip on the forend depending on what stock youre running but dsiwy is right, modern pumps will stay locked in battery if they are fired with rearward pressure on the action. Depending on how you absorb the recoil it may unlock on you just after firing. I use my 3 fingers on the grip to pull it into my shoulder and firmly grip the forend while gently supporting it
 
Pushing forward with the non-shooting hand is something that most shooters don't know to do (from my experience). Here is a demo video (volume is low during the shooting part).

htt p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq74aiXn1b4
 
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Shooting off hand is the position that generates the least amount of felt recoil to the shooter, and standing with your left foot forward (right handed shooter) with a slight bend in your knee and leaning slightly forward into the gun, allows the recoil to move across your chest and down your rear leg, reducing the felt recoil that much more. Done properly the recoil comes straight back with a minimum of muzzle flip.

When the gun fires, your aim is disturbed by the recoil, but you follow through without taking cheek off the stock and regain your sight picture as quickly as possible. So the faster the gun cycles, the faster you can reacquire your sight picture, and it cycles fastest if the recoil assists the ejection of the spent round. That's why it is proper to have rearward pressure on the forend. In this way the spent cartridge seemingly ejects by itself, your push the slide forward as you lean forward, back into your shooting position, then its simply a matter of rolling onto your subsequent target and firing again as long as you have ammo and targets.

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If you dry fire a pump shotgun, at least a Mossberg, Remington, or Winchester, you'll note that it you exert rearward pressure on the forend, the slide won't come back when the trigger breaks until it nudges slightly forward. Thus you can never take the gun out of battery while there is gas pressure in the barrel. Recoil happens the moment the slug/shot column clears the muzzle, and the recoil provides the nudge which unlocks the slide, thus exerting rearward pressure on the forend is a benefit as it speeds the cycling of the gun, rather than waiting to recover from the recoil, then using muscle energy to cycle the gun.
 
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