Shooting a Sig 226....is it different from any other pistol?

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I own several pistols in 9mm, 10mm, 40 and 45. I compete in IPSC with my Shadow (in the "Shadow" division :dancingbanana:) and have been shooting for several years recreationally. Before that, I served and was taught the basics like anyone else.

Recently I bought a used 226 Elite with the SRT and the E2 grips. I really like it. But I always group my rounds to the left of the POA. I know this is usually caused by too much trigger finger, but I honestly don't see what I'm doing wrong. All my other pistols group more or less the same regardless of caliber, and some of them are DA/SA, SA, and Striker fired. I checked the sights, and they're straight and centered.

So is there something different about shooting the 226? Any different way to hold/aim it?
 
From another site: Quote: This is a problem of trigger technique; you're not pulling the trigger directly back, so when it breaks, the trigger jumps back and pulls the shot to the left. Left-handed shooters generally see their shots pull off to the right. The best cure is lots and lots of dry-fire, and if you can get to the point where you can balance a fired rifle case on the slide while you pull the trigger all the way through, you should be able to see a drastic improvement in consistency on paper.
 
The 226 fit your hand? A change of grips might help, but if you're getting a consistent group to the left, adjust the sights.
"I served" mean CF? The CF doesn't teach anybody how to shoot a pistol for target shooting. IPSC isn't really target shooting either. It's a shooting game.
You ever do any bullseye shooting? That can improve your IPCS shooting. Teaches you a lot about trigger control, breathing and sight picture.
 
silverfoxdj said:
You left handed?
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No. Right handed but left eye dominate.

silverfoxdj said:
From another site: Quote: This is a problem of trigger technique; you're not pulling the trigger directly back, so when it breaks, the trigger jumps back and pulls the shot to the left. Left-handed shooters generally see their shots pull off to the right. The best cure is lots and lots of dry-fire, and if you can get to the point where you can balance a fired rifle case on the slide while you pull the trigger all the way through, you should be able to see a drastic improvement in consistency on paper.
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This happens in DA or in SA, but more dry fire practice never hurt anyone. I'll go back to doing it. Thanks!

sunray said:
The 226 fit your hand? A change of grips might help, but if you're getting a consistent group to the left, adjust the sights.
"I served" mean CF? The CF doesn't teach anybody how to shoot a pistol for target shooting. IPSC isn't really target shooting either. It's a shooting game.
You ever do any bullseye shooting? That can improve your IPCS shooting. Teaches you a lot about trigger control, breathing and sight picture.
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I chose the E2 grip because it does feel better in my hand and I don't have to reach so much for the trigger or the mag release. I have the smallest grip panel on my M&P and my hand swallows that grip up but I don't have this problem with that platform. If the dry fire doesn't help, I might start adding tape to increase the thickness and see if that would make a diff.

My service was relative as it was to relay the fact that I'm not a newb when it comes to shooting and was not meant to editorialize the training.

I'd like to try Bullseye shooting. Sounds like fun. But this problem seems to be confined to this platform only. All my other pistols I shoot quite accurately. Even asked to shoot completely new (to me) guns last night at the club from the other members.....no issues with theirs either. Seems to be something I'm doing wrong with the Sig specifically.

GuiltySpark said:
Maybe it's your subconscious warrior mind pulling to the left to try and score a lung shot.
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There's another one on (my) right as well. Funny how I seem to be partial to that lung and not the other.

thenewbieglockguy said:
You just have to get use to it. Dry fire often. If you go to the range, shoot your sig first before your glocks or others because the trigger is what's giving you the problem.
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I'll try this next time I go. Thanks as well.
 
How are you shooting, one handed, two handed, with a rest, without a rest. Before trying anything else I would shoot a couple of 5 rd groups from a rest. A real pistol shooting rest would the best, but any rest will work. See how it groups from the rest, if it is still left maybe the sights need adjustment.
 
I have a Sig and shoot left of POA too. I see I'm not the only one, I am working on my technique and I have got my group from quite low left to just left now after several trips to the range since I got my pistol. It's hard to get from knowing how you should apply your trigger finger and grip to actually achieving the proper method. Several hundred rounds so far in my case. Practice, practice. I am having new Truglo sights installed so next trip will be the big test.
 
The odd time I shot Sigs I often had the same issue. The guns fit in my hands much the same as my CZ's. The only thing I could think of is that with the higher bore axis compared to many other similar handguns that I was getting more of a upward pitching from the recoil and that I was reacting with a bit of a flinch. When I realized this and then really and seriously concentrated on the sight picture and smooth pressure build on the trigger the gun shot dead on like it should. But even the slightest sloppiness and loss of focus and it was back to pulling left again.

At the time that I learned this about my Sig shooting I'd recently beaten down my beginner's flinch and had been shooting various handguns well for a few months. But that darn Sig beat me down again. Fortunately the hard learned lessons and diagnosing my own issues were still fresh in my mind. But it really forced me to focus to get it right.
 
I shoot to the left too, when I use the knuckle of the trigger finger instead of the pad. When the retired shooting instructor who sometimes shoots in the bay next to me stops laughing, he usually reminds me to use the pad at the fingertip to pull straight back. Suddenly I'm hitting little dots and shooting nice tight groups. A few mag changes later and I'm back to the knuckle, which is my "technique" for Double Action revolvers. Old habits.
 
If you guys shoot 2 hands i can give you some pointers.
So for a right handed guy: you control up and down with the grip hand (right) and left and right with the control hand (left).
The wrong move: you squeeze the trigger but you actually pull the pistol to the left thru the "push on the trigger move". I'm sure all of you can do perfect groups one hand as while you hold with one hand the manipulation of the trigger is different.
Dry firing and the use off a laser on the rail will improve holding while squeezing. Also one more problem with the SIGs is the "shooting lower" due to do wrong interpretation of the combat sights.
 
It's definitely trigger control. If you're a righty ask a lefty to shoot it. See if it pulls the opposite way
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Colquhoun said:
The higher bore centerline will make it feel more 'lively' in your hands exploiting the weaknesses in your fundamentals.
You will always fight this with a Sig or similar platforms.
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Yep. Found out today that my P226 is much more 'lively' than my Beretta 92 was! Not only a higher axis, but the Beretta had more weight out front, and a thicker grip. Groups were not as good with the Sig, but im confident they will improve with experience, just like my Beretta did.

I also shot a club members Casull 454 today. You wanna talk about LIVELY!!!
 
Shot my Sig with the new TruGlo sights yesterday. First round in the bull, second round almost thru the first hole:D Concentrating on good fundamentals gets decent groups now, needless to say I am pleased with these results.
 
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