Shooting factory 44 russian ammo in an 11mm MAS?

[Chps2]

Seems crazy but I saw a post on ####### where a guy was selling his antique 11mm MAS revolver and said he shoots 44 russian through it. Seems like the worst idea ever, but is it possible?

 

[vagrantviking]

The 44 Russian has a bullet diameter of about .430" the 11mm is around .450" . This really isn't a viable plan.

You need to work on the Google-fu and research the cartridges you are considering.

 

[mrspeel]

There Is an article on cast boolits where some guy mentioned shortening 44 Russian cases to 45 acp length.

 

[stewbud]

My old copy of Cartridges of the World (1965 Edition) speaks a little about the 11mm French Ordnance revolver and its ammunition.

It states "The 11mm French round is another one not very much different than the .44 S&W Russian. Satisfactory ammunition can probably be made by shortening and reforming .44 S&W Special brass. There really isn't an entirely satisfactory bullet for this particular cartridge." 'Factory ballistics 180 grain bullet at 695 feet per second from black powder.'

Good luck with the project.

 

[vagrantviking]

44 Russian brass can be used with the larger heeled bullet for the 11mm but still isn't a very good fit. Shortened 44-40 has a larger base diameter and works better. Either usually needs the rim thinned.

Just dropping factory 44 Russian in isn't likely to get you very far.

 

[snurge]

44 Russian fits in my 11m73 but the rims are too thick and is too long when you add a bullet
44 colt brass fits perfectly but also needs to be trimmed.then a 44colt heeled bullet work well

 

[mauser71]

H C collection will help

 

[stewbud]

Here is a reloading kit and information.

It shows which bullet might work.


http://www.hlebooks.com/11mm73/cham01.htm

 

[vagrantviking]

I've seen an 1874 that had the chamber's modified with a 455 reamer.

I'm against modifying on principal but this simplifies reloading and it could still be used with proper 11mm ammo.

 

[Egon]

I have an 1873 MAS with the cylinder reamed out to 455. It works beautifully with Fiocchi 455. It was quite economical ( $100 ) and you’d never think it wasn’t an original.455.

 

[Coachgun67]

The 44 Russian has a bullet diameter of about .430" the 11mm is around .450" . This really isn't a viable plan.

You need to work on the Google-fu and research the cartridges you are considering.

^^^This! The 1873 is really a .45 ...the french back then measured their caliber land to land instead of groove to groove like we do. Groove to groove measured, the "11mm" on mine is really 11.48mm ...or .452, hence the easy conversions to Webley or ACP

CG