Short barreled shotguns

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Fella's I'm looking for a solution to a problem.

I have a few short barreled shotguns. Mossbergs are drilled and tapped, Wingmasters (older ones) aren't, and all of them hit ridiculously high at 25-50m. I've tried the oversized front bead on the Mossberg, and it helps but I still have to hold well under 6 o'clock in order to hit bulls w/slugs.

What is the best shake awake, etched donut of death reticle (in the event the batt dies), and lowest mount available for these shotguns?

Internet pic for attention. (BTW, I hate how far forward and high this sits. Chin weld. So, an improvement on the pic would be appreciated.)
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The original Vortex 1X prism has low mounts and a donut of death.... around $200 used.

I doubt it's much lower then the one in the picture so your probably looking at adding a cheek pad of some sort.

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On one of my short SGs I just glued a couple 1/2" long pieces of a finish nail on the ribbed 'sight plane' to create 'rear dots'. They're about 1/4" apart and gives a reference like the dots on pistol rear sights and then center the front bead. I recently bought a piece of fibre-op and may replace the 'nails' with that, but the nails are shiny even in low light where the FO would not be as visible? And No need for chin-weld.
And if you're set on a red-dot, maybe just eliminate the mounting base and epoxy one in place. I'd try it with some adhesive that's easy to remove and Not 'overload' on the epoxy. You may not want it 'forever'.
 
I found some Swampfox Liberty 2 RMR and these mounts. Should be nice and low drag with lots of adjustment.

One for my 590/835 and another for my 870 Wingmaster.
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mossberg 940 pro turkey 18.5" with holosun eps in green is the way to fly, challenger slugs cloverleaf at 40 with Carlson extended IC choke, the shotgun has a recess shield cut out, the eps full size has the lowest deck height, plus the cut out is in the receiver not on top, it's also at rear of receiver closer to your face, that eps has nice big window and close to face is big fov, not to mention the 32 moa donut of death reticle that can have a 2 moa dot in middle or just be donut or just be a 2 moa dot, I like the circle only, that means it's a 16" circle at 50 and 8" circle at 25, it's thee premier set up, and the little super fast cycling don't need to clean them for like 1500 rounds is about 7 lbs all up - the eps is super low profile and because you remove the cut out plate 1st when you add the eps it only added 1/2 oz to naked gun weight, closing in on 40 ft/lbs recoil energy with those challengers though, shotgun also comes with adjustable rear stock for lop options and cast spacers, and retro cool old school camp dipped ;)

mossberg may be putting that cut out in their pumps too, but that is so low that I took the front sight right off the barrel, the eps is shake awake, solar primary, it will run without a battery on solar, battery just backs it up in case you're in the dark, it has a lower deck height than the 407c/507c

I have two of these shotguns, one is NIB, hit me up if you want one, only 1 eps though, I'm keeping the one set up, first one needed new barrel out of the box as it was missing gas ports so wouldn't cycle, a factory miss, but wolverine got a new barrel on it, test fired, and now it sits as nib with everything else it came with ready to go, I was impatient and bought a second one and set it up while I waited for the warranty one
 
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I’ve got a rail mount see all sight on my shotgun but it has an integrated pic rail so it sits pretty low. If you don’t want to deal with batteries you could always get one of the see all rmr foot print ones and pair it with a rmr adapter
 
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