Short Magnum Survival

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When the short magnums were announced in the early 2000, everyone has to get one. Almost 10 years later, I see Browning dropped the super short magnums - 223WSSM, 243WSSM and 25WSSM.

270, 7mm, 300 and 325 WSMs are still being offered in the Browning rifle product lines.

I think the 270WSM and 300WSM will go for at least another 25 years if not longer. Not sure 7mm and 325WSM will survive.
 
All of the WSM's will survive just fine, although the 325WSM's popularity will grow the most slowly.

The most popular will always be the 270WSM and 300WSM, simply because there aren't many 277 caliber cartridges, and .308 caliber magnums will always be popular.

The WSSM's are gone and buried they were never a great idea IMHO. The SAUM's are pretty much gone with the 7SAUM seeing some popularity with target shooters.. ...For that matter, most of the RUM's are pretty gone, too.
 
I think people are starting to understand that all these chamberings are doing the same thing basically, and cost and availability are determining factors also.

Every gun shop will have .308's .270's , 30-06's etc on the shelf in a number of configurations.
 
Gatehouse said:
All of the WSM's will survive just fine, although the 325WSM's popularity will grow the most slowly.
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Time will tell.

I never pay much attention to the short mangums and I don't see much advantage the 7mm and 325 WSMs offer over the 7mm RM and 338WM.

I like the idea that the 300WSM (Browning) comes in a 4" short barrel over the 300WM. I came close in buying one last fall...
 
Danny Boy said:
Time will tell.

I never pay much attention to the short mangums and I don't see much advantage the 7mm and 325 WSMs offer over the 7mm RM and 338WM.

I like the idea that the 300WSM (Browning) comes in a 4" short barrel over the 300WM. I came close in buying one last fall...
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With modern loads there is no reason to have a .300 Winchester Magnum or a 7mm Remington Magnum with a 26 inch barrel. Ballistically neither the 7mm or the .300 WSM's offer anything over the more established cartridges.
The 7mm WSM will be the next one to go as, apart from certain target shooters, no-one is buying them.
New cartridges are introduced to sell rifles
Tack
 
I think long term the only survivors will be the .270 and 300 WSM, they're the only ones that seem to have any sort of following. 30 years from now i see them still being around, but still in somewhat limited availability, similar to popular hunting cartridges of yesteryear, say 300savage etc.
 
The 7WSM will probably see small but consistent popularity with select hunters and shooters. RIfle sales in 7WSM arent' going to set any records. But with the 270 and 300WSM's being so popular these days, and the 325 enjoying some attention as well, I don't see the WSM's becoming limited in availability. Heck, you can buy WSM ammo at Canadian Tire, for the same price of 300WM ammo, so it's clear that people have bought these rifles. :)

The 300WSM has been around over a decade. I recall when it first came out many naysayers advising to "stock up pn brass, as this cartridge will be gone in a couple of years!!":p:p
 
270WSM might be the best all-rounder!

I love 270WSM it's a superb caliber, a more accurate, more powerful 270Win.
An absolutely outstanding all-rounder (like the 270 Weatherby magnum).
It is the most popular WSM and is selling very well.
300WSM is more powerful, extremely accurate and is not selling as well.
325WSM is slowly gaining popularity and might be the best WSM. (a compact equivalent to the 338 Win Mag).

Remember that 338Win Mag got off to a slow start and it's still gaining popularity!

Alex
 
The 270WSM should remain strong for years due to the success of the 277s and the benefits of a bit extra velocity over the 270Win. Can't say I ever heard a complaint about the 270Win, so the faster and flatter trajectory should keep it around for years of product development. O'Connor's praise of the 270 Win made the cartridge famous and Frequent praise of the 270WSM from Craig Boddington sure won't hurt it's lifespan.

Everyone loves a fast .30, and although it does not outperform the 300WinMag, and nowhere close to the Lazzeroni rounds, it comes close but fits into a short action and performs well from a short barrel without blowing out shoulders, so it will likely be discussed 100 years into the future as a phenomenal antiquated cartridge.
 
AlexF said:
I love 270WSM it's a superb caliber, a more accurate, more powerful 270Win.
An absolutely outstanding all-rounder (like the 270 Weatherby magnum).
It is the most popular WSM and is selling very well.
300WSM is more powerful, extremely accurate and is not selling as well.
325WSM is slowly gaining popularity and might be the best WSM. (a compact equivalent to the 338 Win Mag).

Remember that 338Win Mag got off to a slow start and it's still gaining popularity!

Alex
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270WSM and 300WSM will last a long time.

I think they are both selling well. I don't see 300WSM falling behind 270WSM at all.

The limitation with 270 is the bullet weight where as you can load a 300WSM from 150 to 200 gr easily.
 
Ormachek said:
I think long term the only survivors will be the .270 and 300 WSM, they're the only ones that seem to have any sort of following. 30 years from now i see them still being around, but still in somewhat limited availability, similar to popular hunting cartridges of yesteryear, say 300savage etc.
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I agree with this post, they'll be around in a classical form. One thing the short magnums are good for is making it so you don't need a waterpump handle on your gun to cycle the action like you need for 300win mag.
 
270WSM is poor man's 270 Weatherby Magnum

Danny Boy said:
270WSM and 300WSM will last a long time.

I think they are both selling well. I don't see 300WSM falling behind 270WSM at all.

The limitation with 270 is the bullet weight where as you can load a 300WSM from 150 to 200 gr easily.
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A couple of notes:
  • 270WSM is selling better than 300WSM because of pent-up demand for a modern 270 cartridge and no competition,
  • 7WSM is better than 270WSM but dying and ammo is almost impossible to find (was killed by competing 7Rem Mag),
  • 300WSM is great but competes with 300Win Mag,
  • 325WSM is gaining traction is destined to be the short mag "338Win Mag"

The are 2 reasons why I didn't buy a 300WSM or a 325WSM:
  1. no dangerous large game in my area,
  2. 270WSM is a fantastic (but overpowered) long range varminting cartridge
I'm from the "Light and Fast" school of bullets ;)

Alex
 
I had a brief flirtation with the 300 WSM, and found it to be a good performer, but not so much as to stand out in comparison to the 308 Norma Mag or the 300 Win Mag.
Sold it and retained my others.
I think the 300WSM, 270WSM and possibly the 325WSM will hang around.
Don't believe that the 270 WSM is necessarily any more accurate, but does give substantially higher velocity than does the 270 Winchester. [one of my favorite rounds]
Regards, Eagleye.
 
The .300 and .270WSMs will stick around,the 7WSM although a good round will probably die,there are too many other 7mms out there.The SAUMs are dead although I prefer them to the WSMs,they appeared too late and enjoyed Remington's usual marketing screwups.That being said I have enough brass to keep my 7SAUM going til long after I'm gone,and will never get rid of it.It's very accurate and easy to load for and is a ballistic twin to my .280AI in a short action. Mur
 
The .284 Winchester (a resonably short 7mm) was thought to be pretty well dead But I believe I heard one of the bigger outfits was bringing out a bolt gun in that cartridge.

If they ever brought back the win. 88 and 100 and the Savage 99 then the .284 would probably bounce back some.
 
270wsm and 300wsm will hang around. I think the others will slowly drift off into the sunset. In my opinion the 270WSM is the best of the bunch and the only one that does a lot more than it's closest competition in terms of velocity.
 
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