Shortage of Ammo
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gushulak
CGN frequent flyer
joe-nwt said:
I'm not sure what your implying Joe-Nwt, what I was implying is that I'm pretty sure that the member in the post (new member as of Jan '07) who crossed the border with $1000 worth of components didn't comply with the proper regulations to do it legally. This was a good thread, only a matter of time before its locked now due to the implication of breaking US export laws and posting it on a CGN forum for all to see, due to someone not knowingly or unknowingly breaking many US laws to save a few dollars in reloading components.
laws vary widely from state to state. i went down to get a reloading kit. i asked the store owner if a canadian could buy reloading components as well. he told me yes to components no to guns.
i talked to canada customs on the way down, they said they didn't need to see any export documents. limit 5000 rounds and 17 pounds of powder.
i'm not saying i'm rite or wrong, but took reasonable steps to be legal.
the savings on ammo is about $4/box and powder $3/pound. i bought the components because i was there, i would not make a special trip to buy it again. you have to buy a lot to make it pay. i went down because the RCBS rock chucker supreme master kit was $200 canadian less than the cheapest i could find here, it cost me $21 in gas to go get it.
i have loyally purchased components for almost 5 years from a small manitoba business, also located along the assineboine river. and will continue to do so.
i talked to canada customs on the way down, they said they didn't need to see any export documents. limit 5000 rounds and 17 pounds of powder.
i'm not saying i'm rite or wrong, but took reasonable steps to be legal.
the savings on ammo is about $4/box and powder $3/pound. i bought the components because i was there, i would not make a special trip to buy it again. you have to buy a lot to make it pay. i went down because the RCBS rock chucker supreme master kit was $200 canadian less than the cheapest i could find here, it cost me $21 in gas to go get it.
i have loyally purchased components for almost 5 years from a small manitoba business, also located along the assineboine river. and will continue to do so.
rmkm70 said:
You did all that could be expected of a person wishing to comply with the law. While the export rules are well known to the regulars on this board, they are not among the residents of Canada, or the US, at large, even retailers. This is one of the problems with the crazy export rules in the US. If there are serious about enforcing them, why are retailers not informed? Why is there not a big sign saying foreigners cannot buy X?
the laws in the states are conflicting. the dept of the interior site said non residents can't buy guns and ammo, but the ND state site says we can buy ammo but not firearms.
i planned the trip for about a month and researched laws alot. i asked locals who go down alot, they said no one ever told them they couldn't buy ammo down there. all had brought it back almost every trip.
like i said earlier i will not be making another trip down there for ammo, and don't reccomend it to anyone else. i have lived along the border for 5 years and that was my first trip to the states since 1987. the $4/box savings is not worth the trouble.
i planned the trip for about a month and researched laws alot. i asked locals who go down alot, they said no one ever told them they couldn't buy ammo down there. all had brought it back almost every trip.
like i said earlier i will not be making another trip down there for ammo, and don't reccomend it to anyone else. i have lived along the border for 5 years and that was my first trip to the states since 1987. the $4/box savings is not worth the trouble.
The reason for steel, lead and brass increase in cost...it is all being bought up by China....well, well, what a co-inki-dink. Who has the largest population in the world?...China...Who has the largest and fastest growing military in the world?...China.
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gushulak said:
His original post made no mention of permits or breaking laws at all.
Then some net-nanny took it upon himself to be "pretty sure" something was amiss and bring legalities into the discussion.
When someone says they drove home from work, do you chime in with "of course your licence was valid and in your possesion and your car was certified safe to be on the road with the proper insurance and registration........
Maybe you do....
gushulak
CGN frequent flyer
joe-nwt said:
Not sure if I'm liking your tone. What exactly is your point? Are you condoning illegal activities discussed on CGN? Its obvious from his first and other posts on this thread that his components were not in compliance with US export law, therefore illegal. Say what you want about me, just sounds a little fishy when a newbie chimes in about all his goodies he aquired in the US for cheap. Its obvious it was contrary to US laws, read his posts. Nuff said.
I am not trying to nit pick, but talking about illegally aquired reloading components on this thread has gotten many of these threads locked in the past for comments such as his. Talking to Canada customs and talking to the guys at Scheels is not enough to make it legal or right. Glad it worked out for him and he has his $1000 of components and is not spending time in a US jail now because of it.
I've said enough, maybe the moderators will tune in.....
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