Shortening an AR barrel?

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I've noticed Questar's short LMT uppers (10.5" and 14.5") are now for LEO's only. (Something to do with crappy new US export regulations?)

I don't own a short barreled AR, but wonder if I should panic and buy one while I still can.

Can a smith simply shorten a 16" AR barrel to 10.5" ? (Assuming you're already using a short gas system.)

Thanks for any insight.

KFB
 
It's not illegal to take your current 16" and cut it down so.....as a last resort.....you could do that. See, that just makes me think.....why the hell is it for LEO's only? There is an actual LAW that says that you cannot purchase a 10.5 or 14.5 " gun? This whole thing is so ridiculous.
 
I don't think the RRA pistol upper barrels are chrome lined (not that it would really matter.)

There's no Canadian law that says you can't purchase a shorty. - I've read that there are new US export regulations which prohibit short AR barrels and uppers from being exported. (Can someone substantiate this?)


KFB
 
Does anyone know if this US export restriction will affect the AR pistols ? or are they in a different class?

I really would like to buy a 9mm AR pistol sometime in the future if this will still be available ?!
 
Apparently the state dept is getting po'd because they approve export certs for pistols, and in Canada they become rifles. They view this as a no no. So, they are getting tighter on what they approve, and for whom.
 
Bitterman said:
It's not illegal to take your current 16" and cut it down so.....as a last resort.....you could do that. See, that just makes me think.....why the hell is it for LEO's only? There is an actual LAW that says that you cannot purchase a 10.5 or 14.5 " gun? This whole thing is so ridiculous.
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It not a Canadian law... the issue stems from US laws. In the United States any rifle with a barrel length less than 16" is considered a Class III firearm and comes under the NFA (National Firearms Act) passed in the 1930's to control machine guns, short barrel rifles, short barrel shotguns, etc..

The US State Department which controls export permits for most firearms exported from the US has put in place a policy that they will not approve export permits for SBR's (Short Barrel Rifles - under 16") EXCEPT when the end user is a Law Enforcement agency, or in some cases Law Enforcement Officers and Military personnel.

That is why we have on our website that certain items are only available to those individuals... because we can only get an export permit with submission of their LEO/Military ID to State Department. Civilian end users cannot get export permit approval for Short Barrel Rifles or similar Class III items from the US.

As far as Canadian law goes... you can have a short barrel AR, etc. as long as your have a PAL that allows Restricted firearms.

Mark
 
RevolverRodger said:
Well maybe some canadian LEO member can buy a few and sell them back to other CGN members :D
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That is exactly the kind of "suggestion" that convinces State Department to stop approving these export permits at all.

One of the documents submitted to State Department when an application is made, is a DSP-83 End User Certificate. Essentially it is a sworn oath on the part of the exporter, importer and end user that they are the actual end-user... that they will not divert, re-export or transfer the item without first getting the approval of US State Department.

The suggestion that an end-user will falsify that end-user certificate and improperly transfer or re-direct the item gives State Department all the reason they need to deny these export permits. That's why it's getting harder and harder to get export permits approved and fewer and fewer items are being exported to this country.

It ruins it for everyone.
 
Once more --
As Questar, ArmsEast, TSE, and Wolverine have stated -- comments on this board are one reason that the US is stopping export of certain items now.

I certain will not tell that you cannot do things that are legal in Canada -- but in the interest of not pissing of the US Gov't (who pay my wages)
do not offer hypothetical issues that run contrary to their policies.
 
I was told that uppers imported as pistols then advertised as short rifles started this latest poop fest. Nicht gut.

IMO I can't see the US getting worked up over an individual Canadian gunsmith shortening a barrel, blanks are available internationally regardless.
 
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KevinB said:
Once more --
As Questar, ArmsEast, TSE, and Wolverine have stated -- comments on this board are one reason that the US is stopping export of certain items now.

I certain will not tell that you cannot do things that are legal in Canada -- but in the interest of not pissing of the US Gov't (who pay my wages)
do not offer hypothetical issues that run contrary to their policies.
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Ok, so they're watching this board for all the loopholes that us Canadian's are going to use once we get their guns in country? Seriously, I'm not at all trying to be a smart ass but......really??

Plus Kevin needs money....
 
How hard is it to understand that en employee of State Department sits in front of a pic and check this and canadian distributors websites???

If you have something that should not have left US shut up about it!!!!
 
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