SHOT SHOW 2012: Schmidt and Bender 1-8X24mm Optic and 3-20X56mm for G28 DMR

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Zenith 1-8x24 (still in prototype)in the black civilian colour.

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1.1-4x24 and 1-8x24 short-dot as used on the G28 DMR in Patrol Configuration.

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According to the S&B rep, civies can get the 3-20X56mm in brown colour too, just no HK logo.

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On the G28
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Apologies dupe post - but this is more suited to this threads topic.

I see that the S&B 1-8 is still a prototype. With the launch of Leupold's new Mark 6 1-6x20 FFP tactical scope, the baby version of their uber expensive 1.1-8 CQBSS, I wonder if S&B will ever get around to launching their 1-8 Short-Dot at all. S&B recently revised the price of this scope upwards by a $1k to $3500, which puts it in the same price park at the CQBSS. Quite frankly I'd like to know what Leupold's thinking was with the launch of the Mark 6 1-6, because not only will it potentially decimate S&B's 1-4 and 1-8 Short-Dot market it's also going to cannibalize their own CQBSS sales. S&B's 1-4 Short-Dot, with the recently announced price increase ($2700), must now be dead in the water, just who is going to buy one of these now with Leupold's Mark 6 that retails for $800 less. Interesting times for the scope makers. The race to the top in price terms is going to unseat a few I think.
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Leibermuster said:
I think if they both get enough MIL/LEO contracts then they will be okay...
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I understand but if you can buy the Leupold Mk 6 1-6, which does essentially the same thing - apart from the additional magnification - for substantially less money why would you go with the S&B or Mk 8 CQBSS for that matter. I'm having a hard time trying to understand what the 1-8 will give over a 1-6 on a DMR type rifle. From a civilian perspective we're talking a $1500 price differential between the two, and I'm sure these ratios hold true at military/leo discounted prices. At a time when the military and leos are cutting back I think the 1-8s are going to be hard to justify given the substantial cost.
 
I ordered a 1-8x24 directly from S&B in Germany (an exchange for a faulty scope) almost 18 months ago. The delivery date was set for January 2011, then March, then June, then December.

When I met with S&B at SHOT in January 2012, I was told NOT to expect the 1-8x24 anytime soon. They were having some issues with delivery of parts from certain suppliers, and also having a hard time with the 8x multiple magnification.....

I am not holding my breath.
 
Globalstar66 said:
I ordered a 1-8x24 directly from S&B in Germany (an exchange for a faulty scope) almost 18 months ago. The delivery date was set for January 2011, then March, then June, then December.

When I met with S&B at SHOT in January 2012, I was told NOT to expect the 1-8x24 anytime soon. They were having some issues with delivery of parts from certain suppliers, and also having a hard time with the 8x multiple magnification.....

I am not holding my breath.
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To bring this thread back, i think if S&B does get it out of the door it will be up to the same par as we have come to expect from that company.

Perhaps we should go with Ziess next time:D or the leupold :D

Either way we are spending a lot of money.. I wonder what Steiner is offering now?
 
Got the normal German retail pricelist directly from S&B today - last year when I ordered the 1-8x24 with Illuminated FD7 reticle, price excl German VAT was EUR1550.00 - today it's EUR2256.30

That's a hefty 45% jump in the price for something that has not even been in civilian hands yet.... WOW!!!
 
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