shotgun and steel????

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what id the min load to safely take down a 6 ins steel plate.
i,m thinking its goig nto have to be buck shot but it would be nice if somthing cheaper could be used.
just getting ideas for my shotgun match.
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Definatly not Buckshot....

In most cases, clubs restrict what you can use...but in genetral, #4 or smaller...lead only.

I've knocked down poppers with #7.5 AA lite Targe Loads before...although I wouldn't try it at anything much beyond 10 meters
 
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There is a wide variety of opinion. My personal view is that any time you shoot at steel, there is a certainty that some portion of the projectile will be coming back.

I want it to be the lightest portion possible, so I'm willing to accept that by shooting #7.5's, there is a greater chance of more pellets returning than the same charge of #2.
 
Well Canuck...if something has to come back at me...I'll take the lightest pellet...regardless of the portion size :)

You won't find many (if any) Match Directors (IPSC or otherwise) that would allow anything bigger than # 4's although the IPSC rule book does allow Bird shot from #3-#9

Maybe some MD's could offer an opinion (Storm...you out there)
 
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Quigley said:
Well Canuck...if something has to come back at me...I'll take the lightest pellet...regardless of the portion size :)

You won't find many (if any) Match Directors (IPSC or otherwise) that would allow anything bigger than # 4's although the IPSC rule book does allow Bird shot from #3-#9

Maybe some MD's could offer an opinion (Storm...you out there)
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That was my thinking. The returning velocity will likely be the same, so I'd rather have less mass.

BGC Action Shotgun league are beginning to accept #7.5, but still prefer #2,-#5
 
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Maybe some MD's could offer an opinion (Storm...you out there)
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Reporting as ordered sir....


Ok.........let be be clear.


DO NOT USE BUCKSHOT!!


There how was that?

Before the new shotgun rules came out we used to let people use what they brought.

I tended to #2 for plates thinking they would work the best. At one of our matches one competitor used buckshot.

One of our R/Os took a hit to the left cheek from a richochet that sent him spinning.

IT IS JUST NOT SAFE!!

The IPSC Rules now say #6 is max for IPSC shotgun and I whole heartily concur!!

I tested it myself and have had NO PROBLEMS at all getting steel to fall with #6. Personally I tend to think that #8 is way too small and 7.5 is iffy.

But once again......

NO TO BUCKSHOT!!!

Frankly I would not go onto a range where buckshot is being used on steel......
 
We all know that a properly set up plate or popper with pulverize a single bullet easily. When you've got multiple pellets striking, the plate can not stay perfectly still until the last pellet makes contact. Since the plate will begin moving with the first strike, some deflection is going to happen.
 
I also suspect that the rounded shape of the pellet makes it easier for it to "rebound" as it is a symetrical object.

What ever the physics behind it....................DO NOT DO IT!!
 
10/4 storm



stormbringer said:
Reporting as ordered sir....


Ok.........let be be clear.


DO NOT USE BUCKSHOT!!


There how was that?

Before the new shotgun rules came out we used to let people use what they brought.

I tended to #2 for plates thinking they would work the best. At one of our matches one competitor used buckshot.

One of our R/Os took a hit to the left cheek from a richochet that sent him spinning.

IT IS JUST NOT SAFE!!

The IPSC Rules now say #6 is max for IPSC shotgun and I whole heartily concur!!

I tested it myself and have had NO PROBLEMS at all getting steel to fall with #6. Personally I tend to think that #8 is way too small and 7.5 is iffy.

But once again......

NO TO BUCKSHOT!!!

Frankly I would not go onto a range where buckshot is being used on steel......
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HOWDY; OK so at a local shotgun match on plates and bowling pins they use #4 or #2 shot in the 3 dram or more power .
AT the cowboy matchs in USA most use 7.5 shot and some clubs demand this .
The theroy is 2 and 4 will not bounse back as much as 7.5 ?
Will the closeness of the targets and lack of proper angle have more to do with bounce back than shot size ??
 
It is most certainly an odd situation.

We tested the EESA backstop with buckshot, #2, #4 #6 and 7.5

The 7.5 bounced back the MOST!

Our theory was that the BACKSTOP design worked for the larger pellets the mostl ( Swirl cage style). But on plates the reverse occured.

Like I said..........I was there when "Backstop Bill" got hit............and it changed my mind.
 
In every match (Cowboy action & 3 gun) that I have shot in Saskatchewan and Alberta, when steel reactive targets are used, the maximum shot size allowed has been #4 shot.
 
ok guys i,m going to test it myself this week
but i think so far it looks like #4 or lighter maybe the trick.
ill kit up try all the ammo and count how many holes in get in me :)
jokeing :)
bbb
 
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