Shotgun wall 'locker'...Legal ramifications?

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Hey everyone,

So I apologize if this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find anything on this product through searches. I also apologize because I cannot seem to remember the name of this product.

There is a product for sale at one of my local shops. What this product is, is basically a box the size of a medium sized book. It fastens to the wall (I am assuming one would fasten it to structural members rather than wall finishes) and has a punch code lock on it. When you open it, you can put a shotgun in it and lock it. What this device does is covers the action, prevents you from cocking it, and covers the trigger. The rest of the shotgun is visible/out in the open.

The idea being, that in the unfortunate circumstance you need to use one in short order for self-defense, you can just run over to your wall punch in the code and bam, you're in business.

What I am wondering, is in this hypothetical situation where you have one of these products, and have to use your shotgun in self-defense, how would this product be viewed by law enforcement, with our oh so reasonable self defense laws :rolleyes: ? (just for matter of fact, I am not talking keeping a loaded shotgun in this 'locker', let us assume you have stored your ammo separately but available to you should you need it).

As much as I like the idea of this product, and have contemplated purchasing one or more, it seems to me that you would just be inviting possible trouble for yourself. Would you be accused after the fact of owning one because you felt you would need to use it at some point? (having it for the sake of keeping a readily available weapon at hand, which we know the police do not like)

I suppose maybe there is a difference in whether you say bought one, and kept it in your entrance closet, as opposed to owning one or more and 'displaying your firearms' with them.

What does everyone think?
 
The type of lock you use may or may not be an issue in the scenario you described. There are so many variables to consider.

What store is selling this product?
 
I should think it would be no different than having a firearm "on display" with a cable lock through the action.

I would be more than interested to know who is selling these. Is it an electronic lock or a mechanical one?
 
The type of lock you use may or may not be an issue in the scenario you described. There are so many variables to consider.

Could you explain a little more, I am not sure I follow. Are you referring to the mechanism of the lock being adequate enough? Specifically referring to this type of situation do you mean the way it's use is understood by the authorities? ie. "Well it was merely a punch code, easily accessible, suspiciously quick to unlock, so obviously you intended to use this firearm to shoot someone at some point."

Thanks for the replies so far.
 
Could you explain a little more, I am not sure I follow. Are you referring to the mechanism of the lock being adequate enough? Specifically referring to this type of situation do you mean the way it's use is understood by the authorities? ie. "Well it was merely a punch code, easily accessible, suspiciously quick to unlock, so obviously you intended to use this firearm to shoot someone at some point."

Thanks for the replies so far.

They wont even consider that. They'll either charge you or not. You could have your gun stored in Fort Knox; but it wont matter if they want to charge you.

On a side note ~ you're worrying way to much about this. Take off some tinfoil, store your guns as prescribed in the regulations, and enjoy life.
 
Well that was a little excessive nairbg. But thanks for the input :)

And I like my tinfoil, thank you very much. It makes a good soup bowl. Plus, I don't consider being careful about ending up with a charge if this ever happened, wearing tinfoil.
 
Something like this, obviously a trigger lock:
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with an unloaded shotgun.....
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Well that was a little excessive nairbg. But thanks for the input :)

And I like my tinfoil, thank you very much. It makes a good soup bowl. Plus, I don't consider being careful about ending up with a charge if this ever happened, wearing tinfoil.


Seriously, my point wasn't against your idea, it was about Canadian storage laws. There really isn't anything in the way of a "ready for action" possibility in Canadian firearms law.

If you need a weapon "now" that won't mean looking for ammunition and loading it.


I believe the law governing this device would consider it "display", not storage.

Consider this device in a closet.....
 
Was thinking this shotlock would work nicely with a magazine fed shot gun (not sure of its compatability with a valtro pm-5). Just keep a magazine or two in the nightstand.

That said, I wouldn't care to have to explain the intent of such a setup in the cold, fickle light of a courtroom if i ever had to use it in an HD situation.
 
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The legality of this type of device should really only be a question of: could you explain it if you had your firearms storage inspected?

If it comes down to a home defence situation, you either NEED to use it or you used it when your life wasn't in danger and... you are going to jail. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a factor at trial, but if you really needed a gun, would you care?
 
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