Should I pull these 9mm bullets?

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So, I have loaded up a bunch of rounds as follows:

120 grain plated bullets
3.8 grains W231
Winchester Small Pistol primer
Seated to 1.15

I have heard these plated bullets should be loaded similar to lead, and worked up from there. The dilemma is that I loaded this more like jacketed.

From the Winchester load info I received, for lead, the starting load is somewhere between 3.8 grains (114 grain bullet) and 3.3 grains (124 grain bullet).

From Lymans 49th, for the two 120 grain cast bullets they have listed, the have starting charges of 3.0 grains (max 4.1) and 2.9 grains (max 4.4)

So I am wondering if I should pull these and start at a lower charge, say 3.3 grains???

Also, any recommendations on seating depth would be appreciated. 1.15 I think is long enough to not cause any spikes in pressure, and they still fit in the magazine, I think I can let feeding determine if this should be shortened up a bit. Lyman doesn't publish minimum OALs for this 120 grain bullet, can anyone provide some?

THanks again

PS, let me know if I am worrying too much. :)
 
UPDATE:

I just checked hodgdon's online load data, which is as follows:

115 LRN Min - 4.3 Max - 4.8
125 LCN Min - 3.9 Max - 4.4

:confused:
 
Onagoth said:
UPDATE:

I just checked hodgdon's online load data, which is as follows:

115 LRN Min - 4.3 Max - 4.8
125 LCN Min - 3.9 Max - 4.4

:confused:
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You are shooting 124 gr bullets with 3.8gr, shoot be OK. The loads listed are minimum required for reliable function in most auto-loaders. @ 3.8, you should be fine unless you have a really heavy recoil spring.
Always round up in bullet weight in load data. Better to slightly undercharge a lighter round than overcharge.
 
i always look at several reloading manuals to get an idea as to what to load. do not rush in loading up shells, you can get yourself in trouble.
 
mg34 said:
i always look at several reloading manuals to get an idea as to what to load. do not rush in loading up shells, you can get yourself in trouble.
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There are some pretty wide variances in data between the manuals and software I have. I use em all to get a feel for whats acceptable and will then use whatever "pistol related" data lets me do what I want with the components I have, unless the data is so far off the scale that I expect an obvious typo. Errors notwithstanding, publishers will keep within margins set well short of a kaboom. With HP rifle, I'm more cautious and avoid flirting with the limits.
 
No offense intended, if you are not sure of the load data being safe, A Glock is not the gun to test them out in. Do you know someone with a Chronograph and a Ruger P85/ P89 for testing? Then you would know exactly what you have. Unless we are only taking a few rounds in which case pull them and then you don't have to worry.
 
Oh for pete's sake! He's barely at the minimum for most of the data presented in this thread. Put them into the gun and shoot em!
 
joe-nwt said:
Oh for pete's sake! He's barely at the minimum for most of the data presented in this thread. Put them into the gun and shoot em!
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This is what I was planning on doing, I just got concerned when I heard that the plated bullets should be loaded more similar to lead than jacketed. I still am below the max loads for much the data I have read,

And it seems according to Hodgdon's (current) website, I am good to go.

Thanks again,.
 
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you are fine.
 
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