Show me your Rosses!

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I've always found WWI to be a fascinating bit of history. It wasn't till this year that I really started reading about the Canadian involvement. I've sifted through a small mountain of material and have surfaced with a great understanding (if not outright admiration) of what was accomplished "over there." It's easy to get into arguments about better or worse when it comes to equipment and tactics, but I think we all have a certain interest in the work done by those men that could have easily been any one of us.

One of the most grim aspects of the entire Canadian contribution was indeed the Ross rifle. As I understand it, it is a match-grade rifle completely unsuited to the kinds of conditions faced by the infantry. Wartime .303 ammunition was also manufactured at wide tolerances, according to my reading. So when the average Canadian (where I always place myself when trying to understand history) stood on the fire step or went over the top, he had to contend with a rifle that could jam at any moment. If it did jam in no man's land, he'd be left with his bayonet and his wits. I don't blame them for throwing them away in favour of their fallen neighbour's Lee Enfield. I personally believe it was this determination to fight on that transformed the Canadian Expeditionary Force into one of the most feared shock forces on the Western front.

Further I would postulate that our national identity was forged in these trenches. Our reputation for modesty and peacefulness was a direct rejection of the extreme patriotism that caused those men and boys to willingly and quickly enlist.

The Ross stands as a reminder of the foolishness of youth, but also a willingness to learn, adapt, and improve.

I'd like to see your Rosses, both restored and in the middle of being restored so I can get an idea of what I need to look for when I buy mine.
 
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Don't have to ask me twice, though I wish I had better photos (note to self)

1910-dated Mk II 5* and 1916-dated Mk III. ]
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The Mk II spent some time with the Fort Garry Horse among others, I believe.

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And their junior brother, a Ross Cadet, in .22 - this one a commercial cadet.

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Others will likely show up soon with many more, and better examples, but I love all of mine, and shoot them regularly. They are great-shooting rifles, in addition to being terrific pieces of Canadian history.
 
When they come up, which isn't all that often, Ross Cadets are, in my view, very affordable - bordering on undervalued IMO. Certainly in the same range, and sometimes less, than many of the converted .303 trainers.
 
My Mark III Ross -

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(Yes, the @$%&^*! CFC sticker was history right after the Long Gun Registry got turfed ....)

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(Note that this Mark III does not have a pinned bolt .....)

Relatively sparse unit/issue markings include Lord Strathcona's Horse -
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My two. The MkIII is a "forend splice" job. Needs to be darkened a bit.
The MkII no-star has had a repair by the Harris Lever before I got it. Bubba has sanded the stock, but most of the data is decipherable

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When are you two cats gonna let us in on that ultra-secret accuracy experiment you mentioned in the spring? Didn't it involve a Ross?

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SMELLIE with a 1910 H.M.S. Canada Ross Mark III and BUFFDOG with a 1905 Ross Military Mark II 5*.
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Is it easier to find an intact, full-wood, milspec Ross or assemble one from the above "damned near impossible to find" lot?

"Six of one and half a dozen of the other" as my father used to say .....

Intact Ross rifles are rather scarce - took me a few years to find mine - whereas "sporterized" Rosses are pretty common, but as already indicated the wood and metal bits to complete them are also pretty hard to acquire ....
 
If you find a full wood military Ross that hasn't had the numbers sanded off the butt, expect to pay into the same range as you would for a Garand. If you find a forend cut Ross, most of those have been sanded on the butt too. If you decide to splice a chopped forend, I have listed a step-by-step process for doing this which I will provide to anyone. The biggest problem is going to be finding a nosecap ( the part that atttaches the bayonet to the end of the stock. In my experience, from when I worked as a tool & dimeaker, these COULD be manufactured in two pieces and welded with TIG or MIG. To make one in one piece like the original, would require making broaches. Not something you would do for a short production run.
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I can't take a decent pic inside tonight of the rifle this sight is on, but I did take a rather poor pic of the sight. A couple of years ago, I posted this sight and a couple of Ross buffs got pretty excited.

It is on a 1905.

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I have another 1905 with a SUTHERLAND RIFLE SIGHT Co. Ltd sight mounted forward of the receiver, on the barrel. Nifty stuff on these Ross rifles, for sure.
 
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